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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zero999 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
ChristianSoldier said:
Also, people seem to be underestimating a First party nintendo game's selling power

Not really. I mean, they're some of the biggest sellers you could ask for, but they aren't miracle workers. Look at Gamecube (22M) or N64 (32M)... both show Nintendo consoles can't sell themselves on Nintendo software alone. I see a similar but slightly better fate for Wii U (which isn't necessarily bad).

that's a fallacy. by that logic, ps3 would have sold 200 million. N64 had nearly 0 multiplats and gamecube faced the extreme popularity of ps2 that even had a year headstart. The fact is that the market is much different now than 10 or 15 years ago and yes, nintendo's first party do have a huge hardware selling power. much higher than on the 5th and 6th gen.

The higher the installed base the higher the chance of profitability no matter which platform. Nintendo has a legion of fans, but the casuals they acquired with the Wii mostly bought bundles. 

i tried but couldn't find a single piece of logic in your words, so let me explain again: saying nintendo first party's won't help wii u sell beyond N64/GC levels is ridiculous, too much difference in the market. that casual BS is an excuse for an argument, wii was bought by a huge amount of tradicional gamers even though there were non tradicinal gamers in the midle.

Wii u is a machine fully capable of receiving multiplatform games and nintendo's first party titles will raise the install base, giving more incentive for multiplats to come, wich raises the base even more and it keeps going. actually, by getting most of the multiplatform + nintendo exclusive, wii u could sell more than the other two combined.