JazzB1987 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JazzB1987 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BluGamer23 said:
'Sticking their head in the sand'... 'look up at giants' HAHAHA
Just LOL man! come on... giants with ZERO install base.. relax =) |
I am relaxed, and sad for Nintendo. Nintendo hasnt been my first choice since I was really young in the 90's and this is proving every reason why. Actually I didnt really have a choice in the matter when my parents got me the NES and SNES, but they were my childhood. My respect is there but that comes with heavy disappointment.
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What exactly did change? I mean I buy Nintendo consoles because their games have a special flair Mario Zelda Mario Kart etc. The only thing different is that they lost most of the JRPGs.
Back in the day there were games like Contra or Final Fight and Turtles etc awesome games but those games dont exist anyway so what does a PS3 or 360 have "old" Nintendo consoles had but the Wii for example has not?
Average games crafted by people that are rushing their games out games without soul etc is nothing I want. And the occasional sports, racing games always came to Nintendo consoles.
The only reason why I bought a 360 is because of all the early japanese games and Dead or Alive 4. The only reasony why I bought a Ps3 is because of JRPGs. I have like 40 PS3 and 40 360 games but 50-60 Wii games.
If Jrpgs would target WiiU as they did with DS I would not have a reason to buy another console anymore. But sadly games like tales of graces come out on PS3 in europe but not Wii and other games were not even made for Gamecube, Wii etc at all.
I mean if I would have to choose 1 game for the whole 7th generation I could keep and the rest would be destroyed It would propably be Xenoblade. This is a typical OLDSCHOOL-FLAIR game. I love games like that. Graphics dont matter every game will look like shit sooner or later (when its not an artstyle masterpiece like Wind Waker etc) So I concentrate on the most important aspect from the very beginning which is gameplay.
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Old school flair....thats just the problem. Its always nostalgia and never moving forward, never pushing what new characters can be brought to the table. Thats why I left Nintendo for greener pastures. I like old school, but it cant be all you are or you will eventually become so stale the whole world will eventually notice.
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You missunderstand. I am talking about oldschool-flair as in EVERYTHING WAS BETTER BACK THEN. When I play Xenoblade I feel like when I was a child etc. Xenoblade is far from having old school gameplay. On the other hand Call of Duty is exactly the same as Medal of Honor was 15 years ago. Racing games dont change they are either simulations or arcade or copy Mario Kart which is by far the most fun (fun is what games are about) racing series that exists.
Mario evolved a lot. Dont judge Mario by comparing SMB with NSMB that makes no sense since NSMB is somewhat supposed to be like the old games. Look at Mario 3D. Mario 64 is the reason so many other games worked. Mario sunshine was not an evolution but Galaxy again changed the rules.
There is almost no evolution in any game so saying you left Nintendo because their games dont change makes no sense. You cant be bothered to take a look thats the problem.
How does e.g Sony change the rules or bring new stuff to the table? I mean seriously Uncharted is Tomb Raider, God of War is ancient Devil May Cry without guns but with swords. Sony owes alot to third party. Or desperately buys companies that made 1 average game so they secure some exclusive IPs.
Alot of people say Mario Kart or Mario Sluggers is the same as Super Mario in terms of IP. That makes no sense. God of War is more like Devil May Cry than Mario Kart is like Mario Galaxy. Just because the game has the same main character doesnt make it the same IP. Sure Nintendo should have used NINTENDO KART instead of MARIO KART and include Link Samus etc (maybe we get a Super Smash Kart one day) but its still not a Mario game in the original sense.
Most of the games that came out in the last 10 years give me a I COULD PLAY SOMETHING BETTER feeling. Because i feel that those games lack something.
Whereas Zelda, Xenoblade or even the new Fire Emblem Awakening which I got 2 days ago make me want to keep playing.
Sure Nintendo also lost some of its charm and alot of their new IP (with low budgets) feel like average games but its still there. Charm that games like Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Terranigma on SNES had (that retro-flair I was talking about) and games like FF 13 Call of Duty, Jak n Daxter etc have not.
And Nintendo actually has/had a ton of new IP. Or their IP changed for the better as in FE Awakening. Nintendo now owns Project Zero. They made Day of Crisis (sure not a great game but its as average as most games today are). They have stuff like Magical Starsign. Advance Wars/Battalion Wars. They had Geist and Eternal Darkness. Golden Sun, Xenoblade kicks most other RPGs ass. Nintendo made pushmo. There is like 40 or so new IP's since 2000. People just dont know about them or ignore them. Mario&Luigi, Another Code etc....
Seriously the world is realistic, brown, and grey enough. And thank god Nintendo uses some color. Other games try to look super realistic but they dont and in a few years they will look like shit.
I cannot really explain what feeling I get when playing Nintendo games or some japanese JRPGs. I dont know how to exlain it. I just know that alot of todays games give me a "meh when can I finally save because I need a break from this" feeling.
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Deep stuff, bro. I totally agree with you about COD being exactly what Medal of Honor is. You know Activision, They focus too much on cheap games that sell like hotcakes like Guitar Hero and COD. Medal of Honor, yes was the exact same thing. Want to know the crazy part though? During that era storylines in games meant something. In retrospect the JRPG's were the best on the PS2, PSX and SNES in my eyes. Those were the top consoles for them. At one time Nintendo was the JRPG king then Sony came and took them all. Its like Sony forgot about Japan this gen and that saddens me because this console war with Microsoft would've been over long ago. Nintendo offered very few third party titles which tend to have the most variety with their first party plus they lost Rare who was their ace in the hole for mature gamers taking all those great Rare IP's with them outside of Donkey Kong Country's art direction.
I learned a great truth about Nintendo, that if they want a mature title they wont make it themselves they'll just buy an outsider. With Xenoblade I guess it counts that its theres now. They had Rare do all the dirty work for them in the SNES era and their third party was top notch when they had no strong competition.
Uncharted is not Tomb Raider. People don't get whats so special about Sonys mark in gaming. Sony's always wanted to create an experience that bridges the gap between movies and games as well as making gamer games like ico, shadow of the colossus, legend of Dragoon and more in the past. Uncharted comes fromt he same mindset as where Jak and Daxter and Rachet and clank come from. Uncharted might be a treasure hunting game but it is more in the vein of Indiana Jones than Tomb Raider, has much more charm and much like Gears of War takes a little bit from the best games out there to become a great hit that set its own standards for what Action/Adventure games are. It inspired Tomb Raiders rebirth even though Lara is no longer Lara, but I must applaud Cyrstal Dynamics on trying to mimmick the dramatic effect of movie-like direction in games and closing the gap between movies and games and putting full control in your hands with brilliant direction. Next gen with Sony theres going to be so much more than power we will have CG-like graphics but great stories, newer ideas branching in so many different directions. Knack looks awesome to me. Can't wait to see where it goes.
The only thing I want from Nintendo at this point is X. I will play Xenoblade Chronicles because yes it does play differently and the Last Story even the game looks totally aged because the Wii U will play Wii games. That was the only thing they had published that was right up my alley besides Playing Zelda and Mario Galaxy. Smash was fun but I play real fighters, such as Tekken. Not to say Smash isnt a great game, but I am glad the new smash is being developed by the makers of Tekken. Nintendo has to bridge the gap and of course as I told you before they always get great third party to do it.
This generation came out with some great IP's Nintendo couldnt get their hands on in the current gen and thats all Nintendos fault. Adults like games with a lot of brown, what can I say, but it doesn't mean it should hinder the stories and gameplay direction. There were great trend setting IP's like Red Dead Redemption, Bioshock, Heavy Rain, Gears of War, Uncharted, Jourrney, The Walking Dead, Assassins Creed, Dead Space, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Ninokuni (probably my favorite JRPG this gen), Lost odyssey and much, much more. Nintendo wasnt in on the huge boom of indy games, but they are trying to catch up and bless them for it but the community isnt going to be like the PS4 and 720's.
Nintendo has a ton of new IP, but Sony has made more by themselves. Microsoft has acquired a ton of third party support that Nintendo hasnt seen in years. Nintendo has great experiences but I but the offerings outside are becoming overwhelming. I am sure Nintendo is even feeling the pressure and I think its playing out in their decision to step away from the grand stage.
I am glad you get that feeling from Nintendo though, very deep and much appreciated, bro. You almost took me back emotionally to when I was a child and enjoyed Nintendo.
