Kaizar said:
walsufnir said:
Kaizar said:
walsufnir said:
Kaizar said:
RazorDragon said:
brendude13 said:
| hinch said:
So we're looking at 15.3M polygons/sec for the PICA 200 GPU (@200MHz) in the 3DS vs 133M polygons/sec of the SGX543MP4+ (@200MHz) in the Vita.
For the CPU side.. we're also looking at dual core ARM11 CPU (@266MHz) vs quad core Cortex A9 CPU (@800-1000Mhz). The Cortex A9 architecture is leaps and bounds ahead of the the ARM11 ones and theres 4 of them!
There's no discussion about power between those 2 handhelds. Its more powerful than PSP, sure.. but nowhere NEAR the PS Vita.
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Did a little more research and I don't think the 3DS's GPU runs at 400Mhz, so yes, 15.3M polygons/sec seems right. I also thought the 3DS's CPU ran at 1Ghz, so many bullshit stats being thrown around.
We should make a table to put all this in.
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15.3M polygons/sec is for the 2006 version at 200MHz. Here are the specs for the 2008 ver.(65nm), which clocks in about 40M Tri/sec at 400MHz: http://people.csail.mit.edu/kapu/EG_08/Mobile3D_EG08.pdf
Also, no doubt it's running lower than 400MHz. The maximum allowed core frequency is almost never used in portable devices because of heat and battery issues. About the CPU, nobody knows. I find it quite hard to be two ARM11's at 266(and with one being used to wireless functions, so pretty much only 1 core for graphics), since the graphics shown on the 3DS absolutely wouldn't be possible with such an old chip clocked that low. ARM11's can go up to 1GHz, I don't even believe it's possible to underclock one as low as 266MHz.
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The ARM11 CPU was used in the E3 2010 prototype with NIVIDIA 200 MHz GPU and NO Motion Sensors.
The finish 3DS uses a Nintendo Unknown CPU (seems to be 800 MHz a core on firmware 1.0.0-0 as an underclock, which would explain short battery life, I suppose) with PICA200 GPU (2008 or possibly a 2010 Model) and HAS Motion Sensors.
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| Type | Name | Datasheet | Source |
| SoC |
Nintendo 1048 0H (Custom): CPU, GPU, VRAM & DSP all on one chip. |
N/A |
N/A |
| Processor Core |
ARM11 MPCore 2x 268MHz & 2x VFP Co-Processor |
[1] |
[11] |
| GPU |
DMP PICA 268MHz |
N/A |
[11] |
| DSP |
134Mhz. 24ch 32728Hz sampling rates. |
N/A |
[11] |
| VRAM |
6 MB within SoC. Independent of system memory (FCRAM). |
N/A |
[11] |
| FCRAM |
2x64MB Fujitsu MB82M8080-07L |
[2][3][4] |
[5] |
| Storage |
Toshiba THGBM2G3P1FBAI8 1GB NAND Flash |
N/A |
N/A |
| Power Management |
Texas Instruments PAIC3010B 0AA37DW |
N/A |
FCC filing |
| Gyroscope |
Invensense ITG-3270 MEMS Gyroscope |
[5] |
N/A |
| Accelerometer |
ST Micro 2048 33DH X1MAQ Accelerometer Model LIS331DH |
[6] |
N/A |
| Wifi |
802.11b/g Atheros AR6014 |
[7] |
N/A |
| Infrared IC |
NXP infrared IC, "S750 0803 TSD031C" |
N/A |
[10] |
| Auxiliary Microcontroller |
Renesas Electronics UC CTR, custom Nintendo microcontroller |
N/A |
N/A |
from 3dbrew.org ...
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3Dbrew, is like going to beyond3D for Wii U specs.
Plus the 3DS has at least 9 MB VRAM and the external storage is Toshiba 2 GB with internal memory of 1.5 GB.
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Any proof for the 9 MB VRAM? Perhaps another yahoo-source?
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Well, 4 MB of VRAM, but 268 MHz across the board for each core both CPU & GPU is clearly fabricated.
AMR11 CPU (difference from ARM9):
Redesigned pipeline, supporting faster clock speeds (target up to 1 GHz)
PICA200:
Specification:
65 nm Single Core [7](max. clock frequency 400 MHz) pixel performance: 800 Mpixel/s[7] 400 Mpixel/s @100 MHz[2] 1600 Mpixel/s @400 MHz vertex performance: 15.3 Mpolygon/s[7] 40Mtriangle/s @100 MHz[2] 160Mtriangle/s @400 MHz Power consumption: 0.5-1.0 mW/MHz[2] Frame Buffer max. 4095×4095 pixels Supported pixel formats: RGBA 4-4-4-4, RGB 5-6-5, RGBA 5-5-5-1, RGBA 8-8-8-8 Vertex program (ARB_vertex_program) Render-to-Texture MipMap Bilinear texture filtering Alpha blending Full-scene anti-aliasing (2×2) Polygon offset 8-bit stencil buffer 24-bit depth buffer Single/Double/Triple buffer DMP's MAESTRO-2G technology per pixel lighting procedural texture refraction mapping subdivision primitive shadow gaseous object rendering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS
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