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Hynad said:

It has nothing to do with Sony. Live isn't horrible in its entirety. It's only "paying for playing online" that is horrible. This has nothing to do with people being Sony loyalists or anything stupid like this. People see what is available out there, Steam, PSN, Miiverse, and they realise that MS is the only one charging for online gaming. It doesn't take more than that to call it a rip-off. MS is charging people for what is readily available for free everywhere else.

Now, you have people like you who can't accept that people won't find value in Gold [because the same is available everywhere else for free with similar quality] who come up with all kinds of apologetics to justify their investment in the service. 

Paying for Live is just sending the message to the industry that you're fine paying for online play for any games you purchase. As if we didn't already have to pay enough to get complete games in the first place, with on disc DLCs, ending chapters, etc... MS is basically locking multi-player for most games, and we should be ok with this and be all sunshine and rainbows? You really can't understand how people may have actual legitimate reason not to support that kind of practice? All of this must fall on fanboyism or pure blind hate? 

Do you own a mobile phone, Hynad?

Infact. Everyone. Im asking everyone here. 

Does anyone here own a mobile?