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Onyxmeth said: If you're looking at the same thing I am, you'll notice that most of the worst shovelware on the Wii is being created by two publishers. Neither one has any respect for quality gaming. Why can't Nintendo pull them aside and tell them to cut the shit? Do you really think Capcom, Konami and Square-Enix, among others, are going to care because Nintendo is cracking down on Conspiracy and Destination? 

I'm done after this post. This is like talking to a fucking wall, so I'm going to try this one last time...

1. Shovelware is good. It has ALWAYS been good. Shovelware has NEVER been a bad thing for any console, ever. The PS2 won because of shovelware, and I say that because the decision to put GTA3 on the PS2 was made because the system had the most titles and therefore the most userbase, even if 98% of the games were ass.

2. Dictating what 3rd parties can and cannot do it what spawned the PSX. It's why everyone flipped Nintendo the bird and ran off to develop for Sony. Even doing this to smaller devs would repulse them and send them to other consoles.

3. Gaming libraries are a issue of numbers. The higher the numbers, the better the chance of having good games in there as well and the more systems they will sell.

4. It's too early to be complaining about this. The Wii is only on the beginning of its second year of existence and NO ONE expected it to do well, hence why the AAA titles which take a year to produce on average, won't be out yet.

5. Nintendo did everything feasible to reach out to 3rd parties. They gave suggestions, they offered hints, they even flew Nintendo reps to the headquarters of these places to show them the Wiimote.

Now, given your inability to respond logically to anything in this thread so far, I have you pegged...

You sir, are Ferrous Cranus:

Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.

http://www.flamewarriors.com/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm

And with that, I'm out.

He's a brick wall, folks. Just stop bumping the thread.



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