famousringo said:
Onyxmeth said:
How about this? Forget the PS2. Both the Xbox and the Gamecube had better third party support in their first 1 year and 4 months. The point I was making about shovelware wasn't that it was bad, or abundant, but that this time around, it was actually affecting third parties decisions on how much effort they'll actually put into this console. Here's Gamecube straight up against the Wii on third parties from Metacritic: Gamecube/Wii 90-99= 9/1 80-89= 30/9 70-79= 43/29 60-69= 41/46 0-59= 42/67 Even the Gamecube, which was famous for bad third party support and was the third best selling console last gen beats out the Wii in quality. Nintendo was coming off of strained relationships with many third parties after the N64. You can argue that GC games were easily ported from PS2 and you'd be correct. That's also a problem that Nintendo brought upon themselves when they decided to not compete graphically with the other two consoles. Do I feel Nintendo deserves the whole blame? No. Do they deserve some of it? Yes. My point with the mentioned third parties is that they still have many projects for the other two consoles into 2009. When does the Wii finally get some of those developers' time? 2009? 2010? If you want to say 2008, you can, but it would be hard to back up at that point with any releases scheduled so far. Just because the Wii is getting slightly better with third party support does not mean it's getting or will be getting what it deserves. The winning console has always had the most shovelware AND the most quality titles. I can see how the Wii will have the most shovelware, but what proof does anyone have at this point that it will also have the most quality titles? |
Well, I hate to say something that sounds like "Nintendo domination starts in 20XX," but most AAA-quality titles take 2-3 years to develop. Since 2007 is the year that Nintendo proved that Wii sales weren't just a fluke, you can expect that it's also the year when major dev studios really started taking the platform seriously. So we should see AAA third party titles showing up two years later. Again, I know it sounds really weak to say, "just you wait until 2009," but the Wii really did catch most people with their pants down. And because of the weaker hardware specifications and unorthodox controls, developers can't just port a project over from PS3 or 360. Some of us have been saying this for months. Expect lets of new project announcements for Wii titles in late 2008, with release dates in 2009. I know waiting sucks, but Nintendo have put a lot of work into creating a spectacular 1st party library while we wait. And if '08 passes without a bunch of major Wii announcements, you can rub it in all of our faces if you like. ;P |
That's exactly what I was saying. It's a long wait. The only thing I don't think we agree with is, I'm not sure if the developers will all step up like they normally would if they have too much success with the quick, mediocre cash-in projects they've been handing in. You might not feel this way, but i feel it's a possible reality. It doesn't mean I think it will happen. It just means I think it may.
