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Soundwave on 02 April 2013
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TheLastStarFighter said:
Soundwave said:

The Wii U "price advantage" is killed by the PS3/360 which will continue to get third party support for the next 3-4 years. If devs can bother to make a Wii U game, they'll make a PS3/360 version too. Not going to ignore 150+ million users for a piddly Wii U userbase.

Wii U's not even competing with PS4/720 so I don't even see that as an actual problem. I dare ya (seriously double dare ya) to go into any retailer and try to talk someone getting a PS4/720 this fall into getting a Wii U. You're wasting your breath. This is a completely different audience, Nintendo lost a lot of this crowd a long time ago. 

PS3/360 are the bigger problem for Nintendo, I can see a lot of parents and even kids preferring those systems. They have far more games, cheaper entry price, better online services, better hardware bundles, and waves of $20 games. You can get a PS3 + 4-5 pretty damn good discounted games for $350 pretty easily right now, makes the Nintendo Land bundle look like crap. 

I suspect price cuts for the PS3/360 are incoming this summer/fall also. Both overdue.

A $199.99 PS3/360 with a game bundled this fall is a bigger problem for Nintendo.

Nintendo needs to get off their asses and make something NEW (NOT MARIO or a mini-game collection) that can break through and requires a new audience to get the system, something that's a big hit. Every other route is a dead end IMO. 


I agree that PS360 is a major problem for Wii U, and will be for PS4 and Nexbox too. But not for long. PS360 is old. Still plays great games, but kids don't want a system that was released before they were born. Nothing can change that. They are dying and no amount of 3rd party support will stop that.


There still will be a market for the cheaper console for kids entering the game industry. I don't think young kids really care so much about the age of the console anyway, just as long as it has new games on it. 

The PS3/360 have Skylanders. And about 100 different LEGO games. And will likely have basically any Wii U third party game. 

Sony/MS probably honestly still have one more hardware refresh they could do with the PS3/360 (another die shrink + casing redesign) to be honest. Neither one has even gotten to under $199.99 which is kinda crazy to think about, because the majority of PS2 sales came after it hit $199.99. 

The PS3/360 is a problem for the Wii U for at least the next 2-3 years IMO, which is more than enough to kill any momenteum Nintendo is trying to gain during the formative years of the Wii U. 

If I'm Sony/MS I'd continue to support the PS3/360 with a couple of new games every year too, just to keep Nintendo's feet to the fire. There's also expanding markets like China, India, South America, etc. and seeing how the PS2 sold for years on end, I think MS/Sony both are viewing the PS3/360 "grey years" in a completely different light. 

Nintendo never, ever, ever should've made a system that was basically just a PS3-360, they walked right into a giant pile of quicksand IMO.