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Kaizar said:
Soundwave said:
Kaizar said:
Soundwave said:
Kaizar said:
Captain_Tom said:

 

To be honest I expect the 3DS and vita to sell about one third to half their predecessors, and then for this to be the last (Good) habdheld generation.

So that means:

3DS: 50 - 75 million

Vita: 25 - 40 million

 


 3DS is selling more then the DS for crying out loud, and the DS is like near 150 million, so the 3DS will easily get life time sales of at least 175 million.


You're living in fantasy land if you think that. 

Even Iwata has stated in recent financial statements, they're not happy with 3DS sales in the West. It used to be that DS sales in Japan were big, but the US and European sales would be 2-3x higher (which is normal as this is proportionate to overall population). But nowadays the 3DS in Japan sells more than North America and Europe combined. 

Monster drop off. The 3DS is selling more like the PSP in the West than the DS, which took off like a rocket after DS Lite + NSMB. 


That was before March 30th sales.

3DS is selling meh in North America and Europe overall. March 30th doesn't change that. 

3DS isn't going to sniff the DS. 

Smartphones and tablets have killed the Nintendogs/Brain Training side of things and there's only so many kids that even still want a handheld. Adults? Outside of a tiny group of vocal adults on gaming message boards in reality that's a no-go. 


The 3DS has sold 10 million in America while the DS at this point had only sold like 8 million in America.

The 3DS had skyrocketing sales in 2/9/2013.

Plus at this point of life spam the DS had already had Pokémon Diamond & Pearl, while the 3DS won't get animal crossing until June & Pokémon X & Y not until October. And there's Smash Bros. on the go.

 

FYI here's a list of 3DS games:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games


The DS never needed Pokemon. Nintendogs + Brain Training + other Touch Generations titles had a huge impact on the DS as did New Super Mario Bros., which for a lot of people was their first new 2D Mario since SMW 15+ years prior. So there was a lot of pent up nostalgia (NSMB2 is just "another game"). 

3DS is actually decelerating year over year in the US NPD, it's down this year for both January and February despite having NSMB2 and a new XL hardware revision. 

DS used to clear 400k-600k in a non-Christmas rush month no problem in the US, the 3DS is wheezing like a fat kid trying to get up the stairs when it gets to just shy of 200k a month. 

Nobody but kids and a very, very small subset of "hardcore gamers" (who make a lot of fuss on message boards, but barely register as a blip in actual sales) want dedicated handhelds in the West anymore IMO. The market segment is undergoing a massive reduction. 

Look at the handheld market just 4 years ago ... 

Feburary 2009 NPD

Nintendo DS - 588k

Sony PSP - 199k 

 

Lets fast forward to Feburary 2013 .... 

Nintendo 3DS - 195k (approx)

Sony Vita - 50k (approx)

 

It's not like Nintendo hasn't thrown a ton at the 3DS already. $80 price cut, XL hardware revision, tons of different colors, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Mario Kart 7, Kid Icarus, Nintendogs, Zelda: OoT, Resident Evil (x2), Super Street Fighter IV, Kingdom Hearts, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, etc.