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J_Allard said:
phinch1 said:

yes but the ps1 and ps2 were massivly profitable, I wouldn't say the 360 has been massivly profitable, infact its been a very expensive mission to obtain 3rd place (not yet but at the end of this year) I don't think mission has been acomplished, its the classic saying, they may have won this battle, but they havnt won the war.......but really i suppose they didnt even win the battle, id say it was a draw

PS3 ate away all of the PS1 profits. Or maybe it was PS2? Either way, lol @ a draw.

Also, no one has any idea exactly how profitable the Xbox is, because MS puts a bunch of money losing projects in its division. The fact that the division makes money speaks volumes about 360 profitability to me.

Despite the initial spoke in publicity, the 360 has been going downhill for the past few years, all of those subscription based features you talk about?, yeah, your standard smart tv or cable box can provide them by default, it's clear Microsoft's intention next generation is to go for the casuals and the couch potatos with it's pay-per-use services and hardware design, so all microsoft has succeeded in doing this generation is advertising the next.

Looking at the skewed release dates may not matter in the longrun, because "ps3 only just caught up and sales are sales", but when you have similar launch dates the end result is that the headstart in sales is no longer there to prop up the console.

This generation is as such, in terms of success.

Wii > 360 > PS3

Had the 360 and PS3 been released at the same time, sony would still have made losses due to the hardware used, however it would have been

Wii > PS3 > 360 in terms of unit sales.

Next generation will be:

PS4 > WiiU and 720 fighting between each other.

You can fire off any sort of point or argument you want but in a year or twos time i'll come back to this very post and smack you in the face with it.