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Soundwave said:
snowdog said:
The PS4 components are a mistake because they're going to raise the comparative manufacturing cost of the console. Sony aren't in the financial position to make huge losses on each unit sold. There's absolutely no way that they can manage to have the PS4 retailing for less than $400.

Microsoft have taken a much more sensible approach with their hardware but if those rumours are true they've shot themselves in the foot regarding software and running the console. I've plenty of people on plenty of boards flat out saying that no used games is a dealbreaker.

As for the Wii U sales, I've already given my reasoning - software.


There's really nothing in the PS4 chipset all that special outside of double the RAM that was expected, which they placed likely an 8-9 year order on, meaning they probably got one hell of a deal on it. GDDR5 RAM is in every modern GPU too, it's not like its some exotic, speciality component. 

Otherwise it's just some cheap notebook CPU cores + mid-range PC GPU. 

Nothing out of this world for late 2013. Blu-Ray drive is dirt cheap. One thing Sony will likely change is you'll have to buy propiertary HDDs (like the 360), so that opens up another revenue stream for Sony. 

Sony won't make a profit at $399.99, but they probably won't take that big of a loss either. I'm thinking less than $40 a unit. 



The guy for some reason thinks Nintendo is going to start selling 100k per week starting the week that is going up soon... even though we know Wii U sold 9k this week which increases the average sales to 101k per week starting the week that's about to go up... and each week it misses the average week will go higher.