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kain_kusanagi on 20 March 2013
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richardhutnik said:
kain_kusanagi said:
richardhutnik said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Working or being contracted with the government is NOT the same as being on the government dole.

Welfare Recipient =/= Pensioner

Deadbeat welfare scammer =/= Retired Social Security Recipient

You are dependent on tax dollars.  The sequester is affecting his wallet.  He is doing work for the government and dependent on tax dollars.

If he was't dependent on the government then why would he be affected by the sequester?

That is no different than saying a Walmart employee is dependent on Walmart. That does without saying. I work for county government, but I also hate government waste. I see it every day. So yes I depend on the government for my paycheck that I earn just like a Walmart employee depends on their paycheck. What you're brother is legitimately complaining about are people on the government dole. They don't work, don't want to work and scam their way onto welfare. If only the people who deserve help got it nobody wouldn't complain about government waste. But too many people are getting free money while the rest of us pay the taxes they get welfare from.

A government employees, including service men and women work for their pay and pension. Deadbeat welfare recipients do nothing but hold their hand out for us taxpaying suckers. Depending on a paycheck is NOT the same as being a welfare dependent.

Well, people don't want to pay for work for them to do, and pay them even more money to offset the added costs, if the job market doesn't provide any.  WPA is a political no-no.  So, end result is that the said individuals end up having to do welfare.  The work is not there.  Well, you do have requirements like in NY state that DO have work requirements, or treating work like a full time job.  In NY state, they want people to apply to 40+ jobs a week LOCALLY, and have like at least 10 I believe actually get contact names of managers.

In regards to government employees, or defense contractors, there isn't much else they can do if the cuts come down.  They are to specialized to find work in other sectors.  My brother would have a seriously hard time finding work elsewhere.  Considering how much under water he is now, trying to do what I do now, with a family, and factor in no health coverage, he would be seriously out of luck.  In short, he is dependent on government.  Being dependent doesn't mean you don't have requirements to meet.  The thing is you have no choice BUT to meet those requirements.

You missed my point. You said your brother is on the government dole. He is not. Welfare is being on the government dole. Working for the government is no different than working for a private company. Working means you earn your money. Being on the government dole means you get welfare for NOT contributing to society. Sure there are legit reasons for people to be temporarily on welfare, but that's not the issue. You say your brother complains about those on the dole while being on the dole. That's just not the case.