Nintendo's down, but not out.

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Mazty said:

DanneSandin said:

Mazty said:

Yeah it does. Something like Heavy Rain is easy (can't really fail) but mature. Are you telling me that's a casual game?

Exactly my point. You are all saying that a handful of exclusives will shift the Wii U. That's absurd. Simply put the Wii U does not have a large enough line up to be successful imo as even in best case scenarios it won't shift many consoles unless something radically changes.

I think there's a difference in being successful and ending up in 3rd place; they're not mutually exclusive. Nintendo can end up in 3rd place (quite likely) but they can still be successful. I would never call the PS3 a success since it lost so much money for Sony and lost a lot of market share as well. All in all PS3 was a failure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a good console with good sales. I think you lack perspective when you say that Wii U won't be successful. As long as it makes Nintendo money it'll be more of a success than PS3, and possibly PS4 and Xbox720.

So the console that helped secure Sony the next-gen optical format and has sold over 70 mill isn't a success....how? Lost market share =/= failure. It's not as if they have 10% of the market. Also the PS3 hardware started turning over a profit summer 2010...
"All in all the PS3 was a failure" - I'm guessing you don't understand business? Almost a 3rd of the market, secured bluray and the base hardware started turning a profit a few years ago. How is that a failure? 

Personally I think the Wii U will shift less then 25 mill units. I can't see it actually making Nintendo money yet I see it pushing core gamers away from the Nintendo label onto either MS or Sony. Losing your fan base and not making money? Now that IS a failure. I doubt a handful of expected franchise titles will help save it either - as I said if every single SSB fan went out and bought a Wii U, we're only talking about 10 million consoles. The great thing with the PS360 is that you can say with a straight face that it's likely that those who like CoD may not be into other highly selling series such as Fifa, GT or Uncharted.

Oooooooo...K? SSB only pushed GCN in terms of system sellers. Wii had MK+SMG doing that mostly for it. Why do you think SSB is the only game pushing Wii U? Also, it seems like your very VERY biased to Nintendo, cuz wat you say about attach ratio's/etc you only point out nintendo and exclude everything else? Be fair bro,...... BE FAIR