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ils411 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

kain_kusanagi said:

The massive wall of text exchange you both had hurt my eyes, hence, I shall give my conclusions derived from the massive wall of texts...

AbbathTheGrim = Sony fanboy! A truthfull fanboy, but a Sony Fanboy non-the-less

kain_kusanagi = hypocrite...yeah...your a hypocrite. Claiming that FFXIII Versus should be multiplat while trying to make stupid excuses for Gears of War to remain MS exclusive...freaking hypocrite. you sicken me.

How dare you call me a hypocrite!

I've never once said that Gears of War should remain MS exclusive. I've said that it is under contract and therefore the same as a 1st party exclusive. I've said that if the contract runs out and it goes multiplatform I'd be happy for those who've missed out on the previous games. I've even said that I honestly don't understand why 3rd party devs enter into 2nd party contracts in the first place. Gears of War is much like Heavy Rain. Quantic Dreams is independent but Heavy Rain was made under contract.

Please explain to me how Final Fantasy is ANYTHING like Gears of War. One is a 3rd party series with no exclusivity contract that has been on more systems than I want to count and the other is a 2nd party exclusive with a contract between a console manufacturer and a developer. Sure Epic owns the rights to Gears of War, but they are under contract with MS. That's what we commonly refer to as a 2nd party relationship. Sony tends to buy devs or IPs and MS tends to make partnerships, but the result is the same, exclusives. Square is not under any contract.

I've been very consistent on this. 1st and 2nd party games are exclusive for a reason and I'm not arguing to change that. 3rd party games should not be exclusive and I've always argued that they should be multiplatform. But I've also said that if Gears of War's contract ran out and it went multiplatform I'd be happy for more people to be able to play it. I'm just not going to "wish" for it to be multiplatform before it's contract is up because to me 1st and 2nd party exclusive are the same thing. 3rd party games have NO business being exclusive.

Wikipedia defines Gears of War, Uncharted, Heavy Rain and others as "externally produced first party games" and defines the term 2nd Party as in reality 1st party exclusives.

Nobody believes that 1st party games should be multiplatform. 2nd party is the same as 1st party so I'm not going to argue that 2nd party games should be multiplatform. 3rd party games have NO business being exclusive.

How is that hypocritical?