Would you sacrifice one of the big 3 for Sega?

[KungKras]

binary solo said:

KungKras said:

I don't see how it's inaccurate. Sony entering the market was what became the final nail in Sega's coffin as a hardware maker. And I hate the direction that console gaming went while Sony was the market leader, so of course I am going to begrudge them for entering the market.

You just don't get it. Up until the PS3 failure, Nintendo was the only company left with the old-school philosophy of making consoles (and even the Gamecube was clearly influenced by the PS1 in design) and they were believed to also be going extinct as a hardware maker. And as long as there is two giant corporations like Microsoft and Sony in the market, Nintendo will always be vurnurable to war-of-attrition tactics. I don't want the kind of gaming I like to die out, so you can be damn sure I am going to be bitter about it.

Oh, and a lot of Sony fans complained about Microsoft's moneyhatting, I remember it clearly.

Just get over it already. There's no denying we've seen brilliant games the last couple of generations without a Sega console, and at least up to now console gaming has done very well. For some people it's sad that Sega left the hardware business, but it's blind fanboyism to hold a grudge against Sony for something that Sega largely did to itself.

I never said Sony fans didn't complain about MS moneyhatting. I said Sony fans haven't bitched about MS or Nintendo being to blame for PS3's bad start. PS3 faltered, and MS and Nintendo capitalised on that stumble, well done them. Wii would have been very popular even if PS3 had got off to a much better start, Xbox 360 probably not so much.

I like how you characterise PS3 as a failure when it's outsold every Nintendo and Sega home console other than the Wii, and will probably outsell Xbox360 when all's said and done, making only Wii and PS1/2 as home consoles that have sold better than PS3; and outselling Wii isn't entirely out of the question. PS3 had it's failings, especially early on, but it's far from being a failure. If PS3 was a true failure we wouldn't be getting a PS4.

The moment my type of gaming and my type of consoles isn't endangered is the moment I'll stop holding a grudge.

I define failure as "not achieving what you intended to achieve by doing certain actions", and sony obviously intended to make back the money they spent on the PS3.