scottie said:
Ok, lets say we have two people in a forest trying to find some moss. They are looking North, and thus can only see the south side of the trees. They cannot find any moss.
One person says to the other, there clearly isn't any moss in this forest.
The other man thinks about moss, knowing that it requires damp conditions, and that the sun will dry up water. Only the north side of the trees is likely to have moss. He suggests that they turn around and look at the north side of the trees.
The first man says "You are so lucky, you managed to fluke your way into an unknown market of moss."
You can clearly see that this is ridiculous. The casual market was known about by anyone with the brains to see, hell, it's how the PS2 did so well. Nintendo were the first to recognise and capitalise on a new market, that is a textbook example of having good business sense.
As for the 3DS doing well because of lots of games coming out, I suppose it's good that it has a whole lot more good games coming out this year then.
So you now know that the Wii succeeded because of Nintendo's brilliant business strategy. You already acknowledged that the DS succeeded because of Nintendo's ability to produce popular hardware at a mass market price, and because of their ability to develop great games. You already have, or soon will acknowledge that the 3DS will succeed due to Nintendo's ability to produce popular hardware at a mass market price, and because of their ability to develop great games.
We can come back to the topic of the WiiU at Christmas, I can understand how it's a little unclear at the moment.
So Nintendo's track record in recent times is, as you now see, either 3/3, 3/4 or 4/4. |
So where is all this market research then? How did they know motion controls was going to be able to sell yet the eyetoy did average at best? It was unknown and it was luck. Where are the CEO comments about how casual is the new market?
how many familes and mums bought the PS2? None.
The PS2 sold because it was targeted at all ages, from 10 to 40, not that it was casual.
The DS was low power, cheap components which sold due to the games and no competition.
This, as I have said before, is not the case for the 3DS. The market is changing. You, and others, deny this. Why? Only time will tell on how this pans out.
The WiiU on the other hand, has major competition, few games (and big titles still seem to not be moving it), and a confused target. At Christams everyone will be buying Iphones, tablets, TVs, PS4s and Nextboxes, but not the WiiU. Why? Because it already flopped this Christmas!
NintendoPie said:
It seems like you basically contradicted yourself. "But the price drop and games helped." And you don't think that'll help Wii U? 20 Million consoles is a complete understatement. It might seem like the Wii U is going to crash and fall. But didn't people also say that about the 3DS? |
They said they won't drop the price.
The games that sell the DS series is different to the console. So far we have seen and heard nothing, and it looks grim. The 5th best selling game on the Wii has fallen flat on the WiiU. The only thing that will help shift it would be a new SSBB, but if we consider that only sold 10 million on the Wii that has shifted 100m units, we're looking at either a spike followed by stagnation at 10m consoles at best.
That's dire.
