Train wreck said:
RolStoppable said:
Train wreck said:
The Wii U sold 8k units this week which is 3x less than the PS3 and 6x less than the current 360 and thats really the problem that the Wii U faces. It is and will continue to be lumped with current gen consoles. So even with mildly stronger titles in the second half of the year and a price cut (which I dont think will even happen) they will be competeting against the PS360's best line up and their respective price cut. 3rd parties will most likely make the games in line with the PS360 since the Wii U version will sell the least, which is a negative for the system, couple that with next gen games and systems and you have a receipe for the Wii U finding an identity. Nintendo's core of first party games will help drive sales but when you are coming from a base this low, I dont see how one can look at very lofty numbers. So the competition is a fierce.
Why shouldn't the vita version of COD and Assassin's creed continue? By the time the fall rolls around, they both will be pushing 1 million units. Creamsugar from neogaf indicated during the last NPD that the COD bundle represents ~40% of all vita's sold. That would be more than enough incentive for Activision to continue, especially when consoles like the Wii continue to receive COD even as their userbase grew and sales of the actual games declined. Ubisoft's CEO went out of his way to mention decent AssCred sales on the Vita and that digital distrubtion was viable (which represents more money for the publisher).
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Why are you talking about American sales when the topic is worldwide sales? Of course you can't see Nintendo's first party games pushing hardware, because if you acknowledged that, then you wouldn't be able to convince yourself that Nintendo will get pushed out of the market. In another thread you argued that the PS4 and Nextbox will start out strong, here you argue that the PS3 and 360 will get price cuts. Apparently nothing can go wrong for Sony and Microsoft, the lower priced seventh generation consoles will only cut into Wii U sales, but not into PS4 and Nextbox sales. Here you argue that third parties won't put effort into Wii U multiplatform games because they will sell the least amount, in the other thread you argued that you are sure that third parties will go all out for their seventh/eighth gen multiplats to push PS4s and Nextboxes, even though the PS4 and Nextbox will have tiny installed bases. Now it would be understandable to take this stance, if you believed that third parties would do everything in their might to spite Nintendo, but in the past you mocked this very idea that you now rely on.
You misunderstood my comment on CoD and AC. It's not that I doubt that these IPs will continue to appear on the Vita, it's that I doubt they will sell anywhere close to Nintendo's first party games on the Wii U, thus Wii U's hardware sales will be notably higher.
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I think you took my words out of context. The PS4/new xbox starting out strong does not mean some ungodly amount by March 2014, it just means it won’t suffer Nintendo's post-holiday slump because 1. They won’t over ship like Nintendo did and 2. Their respective userbases will respond favorably to the first and 3rd parties titles launched for it. I think both attaining 3.5-4 million by March with no revisions to their numbers and launching worldwide will be better received by investors than Nintendo's approach of overshooting shipments (5.5m) and bring down numbers constantly (probably 3.5m come this march) with massive software issues. So yes, both next gen consoles will be fine starting out.
Don't know what my mentioning of the PS360 getting price cuts and the next xbox and PS4 have to do with anything. Early adaptors and late adaptors buy consoles for different reasons, at different price points. The two hardly mingle. The Wii U 50 dollars cheaper does not make it instantly favorable in the west against current gen consoles and in Japan the basic console is already on par price wise with PS3 currently so I don’t even know how much they will be able to cut since it’s not even competitive at its current price.
Ubisoft already mentioned that the PS4 version of Assassin's Creed will be the best. Why would the company go out of their way to say a game for a console with a zero userbase is superior when you have the game releasing on a supposed next gen console with a userbase of 3 million and last gen userbase of 150m+? I’m in the camp of believing they want the next gen consoles to start out on a good footing. I’m sure once we get more information on games like Battlefield 4 and Destiny, they will mention the same. As more and more companies state differences in prior gen and next gen games, it will entice those who already have current gen consoles who are early adaptors to go and make the switch. The Nintendo conspiracy theorists will call it smiting, I don’t believe in the notion, I do believe that current sales of 3rd party Wii U games will dictate the quality game they get and if it’s cheaper to make the game based on PS360 then they will go that route.
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Well, Handhelds always sale more then Home Consoles, but the Wii always outsold the PSP, and the PSP had a big headstart.
The Wii U sales are second to Wii sales, so if the PS4 & 720 sale more then the PS3 & 360 did for the beginning sales then it will be around even for the first several months sales comparison with the Wii U first several months sales. And the Wii U will have more stronger sales during Q4 2K13.
