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happydolphin said:
Spazzy_D said:

Super Mario 3 - 17.28 Million

Super Mario World - 20.61 Milion - on a muchsmaller user base.

Those were the last two Main line 2D Mario games.   What decline?  They just didn't make any new games.

Before Mario 3, SMB sold 40m units globally. In japan, SMW had lower sales than SMB3, so in Japan it was a decline. Globally it was barely higher relatively speaking. It was also bundled whereas SMB3 wasn't.

@Wyrdness. The boost from NSMB as compared to 3D Mario is not a fair measure because the consumer base was basically starved, leading to the reverse effect of fatigue, e.g. pent up demand. That is apples to oranges.

MoshiYoshi said:
The main thing, fo me, is Nintendo's naive refusal to advertise in Europe.

Surely they have now learnt that reputation alone does not sell consoles or games

 

Yet when people try to prove that NSMB is still alive, they never mention Europe.

 


By your own logic, SMB was bundled with almost every NES and SMB3 wasn't.  Going back to something you understand, you know what series was in a real decline that you can get actual sales data to back up?  Street Fighter.  Look at SF3.  Sold horrible, until the retro revivial.  Guess what?  2D Cacpcom fighters are also in decline.  Look at SF X Tekken.  Should they be budget titles?

You're grasping for straws.