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Mazty said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:

Thats a contradiction. How can you determine the next iteration of hardware if you are not looking at power?

 

Because the Wii U is the successor to the Wii, which was 7th gen, and was the successor to the GCN, which was 6th gen.


So then a successor is determined just by the name? If you ignore the hardware then how are you determining what is a successor? How is the 360 elite not the 360's successor if you are ignoring hardware? 

 

kain_kusanagi said:
Mazty said:

How though are you linking 1 & 2? They seem very far removed from one another. You're saying the PS4 could be technically inferior to the PS3, but a new console, say Console X made by Apple would have to be a considerable upgrade from the best of the last gen to be considered next gen.

I'd say that consoles simply need to adhere to point 2 otherwise it's just an off-shoot of the current gen, no different from things like Move, Eyetoy and Kinect. 

Move and Kinect are current gen addons and are not stand alone consoles.

It doesn't matter to me if Sony was stupid enough to releases a PS4 less powerfull than the PS3. It would be the follow up and therefor next gen. It is however, completely unlikely to happen.

 

Still my point stands - why then would a new entry to the generation have to be a significant improvement over the 360, yet MS could release something as powerful as a Furbie?

 

Anything that is a successor would be next gen because it is by definition following it's predecessor's generation.

Take the Ouya for example. It is a new system being released during the 8th generation of home consoles. But the Ouya is not significantly more powerful than the PS360 nor is it a follow up to a 7th gen machine. It is not a next gen game machine. However, if Ouya sticks around for the next 5-10 years and recieves a follow up for the 9th gen then the Ouya 2 would be next gen and part of (8th gen). The original Xbox didn't follow anything, but it was significatly more powerfull than the Saturn, PSX, and N64 so it was a 6th gen machine.

Anything from MS, Sony, and Nintendo is by default an 8th gen. It has nothing to do with its name. The Xbox 360 Elite was not a follow up it was a revision just like the PS3 Slim and Ugly Slim and the Xbox 360 S. To be a follow up it has to be a completely new machine, but it doesn't have to be 10X more powerful either.