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Immortal said:
kain_kusanagi said:

The fluke isn't NSMB2, it's NSMBW.


You have a lousy argument, I'm afraid. We have two successful NSMBs and one unsuccessful (so far). Making excuses for the successful ones in this case makes no sense.

Calling something like 20m sales without bundles a "fluke" is really quite funny, to be honest. :P

I'll say it again: the sales power of 2D Mario and the fact that it crushes 3D Mario is really not debatable. Very few people who have been following sales on here would be willing to humour this argument.

Well let's just see what happens then. If your right NSMB U and NSMB 2 will grow and end up selling as much as NSMB and NSMB W. If I'm right NSMB U and NSMB 2 will slow and be eclipsed by the next big 3D Mario game we are all waiting for.

I personaly am waiting for a 3D Mario or Zelda or Metroid before jumping on the Wii U train. NSMB U is far, FAR too much like the ones I've already played for me to spend $400 - $450 on a console with nothing else I'm interested in. I like 2D Mario games, but I have enough of them right now. I think consumers in general have enough 2D Mario to go around and don't need another one. But an HD 3D Mario could turn some heads, a lot of heads.

I'm not proposing a bet, I don't bet, but we will see who is right in the comming years. The Wii U doesn't have clueless soccer moms and grandparents to trick into buying it like the Wii did. It has to convince real gamers, both casual and hardcore than the Wii U has games they want to play. As a real gamer and a long time Nintendo fan I'm waiting for the good stuff and I think a lot of gamers feel the way I do.