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Flanneryaug said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Jumpin said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Jumpin said:
I don't even know anything about PS4 and Xbox 361 yet, but I would say in the first five years:

Xbox & Wii U 60-80 million
PS4 20-35 million

I can't see PS4 being anything more than a lesser Xbox with poorer marketing. The company is too much in ruins now.

Wow Sony has never seen those types of numbers. Those are original Xbox/ Gamecube numbers. Sony has never been that irrelevant to people and I doubt they ever will be.

Only 3.6 million Vitas sold in 2012 despite launching in Japan a few weeks before the start of the year, and in the two major territories very early in the year, and with 10 months to build up to a possible worldwide holiday break-out. Sony has been on a fairly sharp decline.

I was referring to the main consoles and the last PSP sold fairly well. The Vita I can totally understand why its not selling. Its getting harder for handhelds to sell in a market thats being swallowed up by apple and android at this point as well Its a great piece of hardware that I like better than the DS but the DS has it where it counts and I will not be investing in a Vita until next gen most likely when it has exclusives.

Smartphones aren't a good excuse for the Vita's poor sales. The 3DS is still selling very well. Sony's problem is that they have become more irrelevant to people, so people aren't going to buy a Sony console just because it says Playstation on it.

Thats the most nonsensical thing I've ever heard. If Sony was irrelevant to people it wouldn't have sold more in its worst gen than Nintendos second best selling console (think about it). Sony  as a gaming entity isn't becoming more irrelevant to anyone, they have no names that they built on the original PSP that people are awaiting for on the PSP Vita. They built it up completely wrong. Dissidia & Monster Hunter will be the PSP Vita console movers. Jak and Daxter sell more on the PSP than they ever sold on consoles, so I move that a team is created to create another version of that game on the PSP Vita. They need to also get Square to put another side quest final fantasy out on the Vita which will inspire Japanese sales. They need more JRPG's. 

Nintendo felt the pain of launching the DS, so they had to cut the price of the product to get the market to response more appropriately to it. Sony runs their console more fluidly than they run their handheld and Nintendo runs their handhelds better than they've run their consoles in the last two generations. The Wii was a one time deal and Nintendo was dumb not to capitalize off of that audience with a next gen console that could keep the attention of the casuals. Now they have a Nintendo console that plays core games with a touch screen.....yeah...watch. The 720 and PS4 will swallow it whole because Nintendo hasnt been the head of the core games section in twenty years.