Should we take "Christ" out Christmas?

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fighter said:

Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:

djs said:
I say merry christmas, i don't say happy holidays.

Christmas is about the birth if Christ, not about shopping frenzy and holidays.
It's about forgiving and caring.

This. Christmas is always been called christmas. It depends on how you interpret it. But christmas was originally created to celebrate the birth of Jesus. No one in the world has a good enough reason to remove Christ from Christmas. 

christmas was a "re-branding" of a pagan holiday

That's a twisting of history. The truth is that the church moved Christmas and adopted a smidgen of the pagan holiday's traditions to subvert the pagan holiday to more easily convert the pagans. The church did not rebrand it, they replaced it.

A rebrand would be to take the original, change the name, and sell it as something else. But what Church really did was compete for the minds of the potential converts with an alternative holiday and make it as easy for them to accept as possible.

What we ended up with today is a Christmas with a little extra flavor. What your suggesting is we have a pagan holiday with a Christian title.