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theprof00 said:
Ok, happy, let's start over. What do you want to accomplish with this thread?

I was looking for answers from people who felt the same way as I did, that it was becoming more and more difficult to have intelligent conversations about the sales in the industry.

I was hoping some people could bring in some enthusiasm and ideas to help form a group that's against it, or learn ways to deflect it.

I was hoping to talk about it and learn to deal with it.

(I also want to start over)