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Xenoblade - another new IP... Kinda. |
Nope.
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wait i thought it was but what about the last story didn't nintendo did fund it and published it in japan
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Second party, its no different than Lost Odyssey for Microsoft or Gears of War. I doubt it sold well anyway.
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Xenoblade is as much 1st party as Uncharted is actually, since Nintendo owns Monolith. The Last Story on the other hand is 2nd party game. Like Bayo2 will be.
@OP: They had some valid points to bring up. But what really caught my ears was Shane saying that he's always surprised by what Nintendo brings. It seems as if they're pretty surprised it's a good and fun system! "I feel like I underestimated the power of something so simple" - Shane. I have the feeling like this is what the industry as a whole always does with Nintendo. We, as gamers, see the potential, but the "experts" don't...
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Uncharted was made by Sonys request to Naughty Dog. InFamous was also made by Sonys request to Sucker Punch, but at the time they were just a second party, once the title sold they purchased them thus ensuring their entrance into the family. Nintendos ownership of Xenoblade is yes first party, but the creation of said franchise had nothing to do with them, but rather Namco. Their first party ownership is more akin to Microsoft with Rare, where Nintendo let go of the shares and Microsoft picked up the pieces. None of their titles were created under Microsofts watchful eye and neither were Nintendos. Most of Sonys were since the beginning. As for the second party part, thats my mistake. I mixed it up with the Last Story which was second party like Lost Odyssey or Gears.
As per your other point, Shane has a point though. You see, Nintendo created a highly casual market with the Wii and that market will either grow with them or move onto other casual gimmicks. The kids will move onto the COD's and GTA's (its alarming how many kids are playing these games).
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I have no insight in how Sony or Nintendo operates regarding their studios, so you're probably right.
I just don't get why Shane was surprised that Wii U is as good as it is... The casuals have moved on, but that doesn't mean that Wii U as a gaming system would be bad, that's just a weird way of thinking. I could see the appeal the moment I read those rumors back in spring 2011, and it says a lot that almost all "experts" were sceptical - until actually trying the system.
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He wasnt surprised, he just sees the Wii's movement, tech, and media awareness as trouble for sunstaining its marketshare. Thank goodness for Garnett Lee, because he gives me a glimmer of hope for Nintendo no matter how bad I feel about their position right now. The Wii U is going to sell off of first party with core third party titles behind it. Nintendo knows this. The question is, how many of the Wii owners who just joined in with gaming will translate to the Wii U? I am predicting about 10-20% of them. The sales of this new gen is going to be smaller than last gen, since Nintendo wont have that full casual audience carrying it when you look at console sales in general (not excluding competition).
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I think you better watch that vid again; Shane is clearly surprised that he actually enjoyed WIi U.
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I know that he enjoyed it, but it never changed his mind about the overall appeal or commercialism of it compared to the original Wii.
