JayWood2010 said:
Torillian said:
Crud, knew I shoulda looked it up, that was just a stab in the dark based on how long the game had been taking me so far. Luckily it's not the main point of my argument so meh.
@Jay as well,
sure you got a lot of hours of fun out of those games, but others got more fun out of other games. Why doesn't Disgaea win every goty since it gives people 100's of hours of shit to do? It's because length hasn't been an issue before now. God of War got nominated before and noone bats an eye, but if 7-8 hours is ok for 60 bucks why isn't 2 hours ok for 15? Again, length of the game should not be the bulk of your consideration because that would be a different award like "best value of 2012" instead of best game. If the reviewers loved Journey more than it should win, simple as that.
@Jay alone,
Journey wouldn't have that high of a meta if it were higher priced, but then again ME3 would be a lower meta if it weren't appropriately priced as well so what's it matter. If what people pay for a game is the main consideration for goty then why are we even arguing about what should win? Let's just take the game the most people paid the most for this year: World of Warcraft, and it shall be the winner until something else comes out with a similar pricing scheme.
It's not "best retail" or "best 60 dollar game", it's just best game. And I'd be willing to bet you're wrong about it not showing up on other sites' goty nomination list. I'd put down a month of avatar control assuming you can figure out terms that seem reasonable.
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This is my argument and why it shouldn't be nominated. Thes games are not on equal ground. People will buy borderlands 2, Halo 4, ME3, and Dishonored for $60 but Joruney no. If you put them on equal ground and Journey is $60 then it's score would drop sigificently showing you that the other games I've mentioned are better. This is why they have and arcade section because those games are on equal ground. It would be like comparing angry birds to Mass Effect. Angry birds at$60 nobody would care for it. If you are going to defend it use a different argument than best $60 game because you know what I'm saying is true whether you admit it or not.
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Why am I forced to argue within the confines of your criteria even if it's stupid? It has nothing to do with how GotY should be judged and it's a ridiculous criteria made because you're used to a certain pricepoint for titles. If you were used to 30 dollar games that would be the requirement and I'd be extolling the virtues of some 60 dollar game and saying it's the best, and you'd talk about how if those 30 dollar games were 60 dollar titles that would mean they'd have higher development budgets and they'd be comparable to the 60 dollar game I'm championing. Using your criteria makes no sense for judging "game of the year" so I don't see why I have to defend it with anything other than what I've already stated.