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happydolphin on 30 November 2012
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kitler53 said:

gamers go to where the games they want to play are ... and for the "older-teen" it isn't nintendo.  nintendo content for that audience sucks compared to what MSony currently offer. 

like wise, MSony make sucky content for children, girls, and the "casuals" that nintendo dominates.  therefore those audiences don't like MSony content or console.

i've been slammed before for even suggesting that the userbase for nintendo and non-nintendo consoles were anything but identical but look at the facts.

1 Just Dance 3 Wii 2011 Misc Ubisoft 5.46 3.14 0.00 0.96 9.56
2 Just Dance 3 X360 2011 Misc Ubisoft 1.35 0.33 0.00 0.17 1.84
3 Just Dance 3 PS3 2011 Misc Ubisoft 0.23 0.11 0.00 0.06 0.39

 

1 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 X360 2011 Shooter Activision 9.10 4.07 0.11 1.41 14.69
2 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PS3 2011 Shooter Activision 5.40 4.68 0.44 2.01 12.53
3 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PC 2011 Shooter Activision 0.36 0.92 0.00 0.26 1.54
4 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Wii 2011 Shooter Activision 0.33 0.15 0.00 0.05 0.53

 

1 Zumba Fitness Wii 2010 Sports 505 Games 2.90 2.27 0.00 0.61 5.78
3 Zumba Fitness X360 2010 Sports 505 Games 1.16 0.37 0.00 0.16 1.68
4 Zumba Fitness PS3 2010 Sports 505 Games 0.23 0.09 0.00 0.05 0.37

 

1 Madden NFL 12 X360 2011 Sports Electronic Arts 2.30 0.08 0.00 0.20 2.58
2 Madden NFL 12 PS3 2011 Sports Electronic Arts 1.78 0.12 0.00 0.19 2.09
3 Madden NFL 12 Wii 2011 Sports Electronic Arts 0.37 0.00 0.00 0.03 0.40

 

 

the issue with MP isn't advertisement, it's content. 

Part of that is the MP content itself.  don't get me wrong, MP is a good game.  But, MP is also design with features like aiming locks and it gameplay is slow paced.  it should be pretty self evident from the "call of dutying" of all shooters that fast twitch gameplay is the in thing with that teenage boy crowd. 

The other part of content is nintendo's overall library.  half of nintendo's library has mario in the title and mario (or anything else that would even slightly demasculate a teenage boy) is to be shunned.

nintendo is better at making certain types of content.  MSony are better at making other types of content.  it is as simple as that.

The numbers are correct, but I think your analysis is a little shallow.

Do you think that Nintendo is incapable of getting a solid 1st party offering that caters to the older-teen demographic? That's even demostrably false, as games like Perfect Dark, Conker's bad fur day, Eternal Darkeness and other 1st party games will show you.

It's not that Nintendo isn't capable of making them, not at all, you really need to find a better argument than that.

Also, games that were aimed at non-gamers and casuals were booming on the PS2, so how did the Wii snag that crowd? Easy, with sw and marketing to drive that initiative.

It's the same concept here, so if they were able to snag the casuals from the Playstation, then they can also snag the older-teen crowd, imho.