Veknoid_Outcast said:
kain_kusanagi said:
pimpcoop said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.
I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.
Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.
I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.
I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high. |
Your still missing the bigger picture. If you look at the Wii libray of games that third parties put that 80 percent is crap. Most of the games are not worth buying unless your a little tween kid. Even the good games were still not like OMG I have to own type games. They still manged to fail hard. There were no third party games like God of War,Gears of War, or Forza Horizon, Battlefield ect.. Those games are the type were people really want them. Not like people can say if it goes down in price I will maybe pick them up. That is and was the problem with the Wii and third parties. We got either shitty ports or really bad exicuted attempts at third party games that were trying to be clones of other games.
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The reason that "80%" of the Wii Library is "crap" for "little tween kids" is because 80% of Wii owners are "tween kids". Publishers aren't going to make AAA games for 20% of the userbase when they can make shovelware for nothing and sell it to 80%.
The Wii didn't have the types of games you mentioned because the Wii couldn't handle them. That's why ports of games like COD were so gimped.
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Kain, your first post was tremendous, but this most recent one is just reinforcing a bad stereotype. It's not fair to depict 80% of Wii owners as prepubescent kids.
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Well, I don't actualy believe 80% of Wii owners are kids, I was just quoting an exageration to make a point. I do think that the Wii success is due to an overwelming swellof non-gamers jumping into the Wii Sports fad. Tons of soccer moms and grandparents bought Wiis for Wii Fit and Wii Bowling. They didn't help publishers decide to make expensive AAA Wii games.
