Wii U Hardware Comparisons

[Chandler]

Scisca said:

Chandler said:

So your saying that the different analog stick placement in the gamecube and xbox controllers are enough to not make it a simple ripoff/clone/copy of the dual shock controller. But in your first post you are also saying that the different analog placement of the Pro Controller is not enough to not make it a simple ripoff of the xbox360 controller. This is hypocrisy.

I have never said that. Plus, the button placement doesn't change the fact, that they copied the whole shape of the body of the controller, which is what I'm criticising them for. If one car company copies the body of another company's car, they can't claim it's ok, cause they changed the lamps in the control panel.

I also love the whole "everything that MS copied from Nintendo, buttons, letters, colors etc etc. doesn't matter at all, only the one thing that Nintendo took from MS is the outrageous travesty, they should bow their heads and commit seppuku for this" spin. The bottom line is, Microsoft used Nintendo assets and SEGA assets on their xbox controllers to make gamers feel at home on their console and now Nintendo is cashing the favor in with the shape of the new controller and suddenly it's a travesty. Get a grip, man. I actually really really hope MS sues for this because this would burn them, hard. Good thing is that MS is actually smart.

MS used ideas of their competition, but changed and developed them significantly. The differences between the X-box pad and DC/PS2/GCN pads are really noticable, each one is different and unique, while the shape of the Wii U Pro Controller is a 99% exact copy of the X360 controller. If you can't see that, it means you are blind dude. Microsoft in their pad hasn't bluntly copied anything that influences a gamer experience, especially not from Nintendo. They saw some good ideas and took them one step further every time. Nintendo didn't bother doing that, that's why they deserve some bashing. My stance is that what MS did was taking inspiration and I'm fine with that. But what Nintendo did with their newest controller can no longer be considered inspiration. They just crossed the thin line. You see this pad and you immediately think about the X360 pad. That didn't happen earlier with the X-box pad, or any other pad actually. But I guess you can never convince a fanboy.

Oh and no, MS and N did not develope their controllers at the same time, I have already proven in this very thread that MS had knowledge of the GC controller about 5 months ahead of their own reveal.

And you really think that they didn't have their controller ready at that point? You think they were sitting there without a controller just waiting for Nintendo to release their controller so that they can finally prepare their own one during just a few days? Seriously, the X-box pad doesn't really resemble the GCN pad. You look at them and they look totally different. Yes, they moved the D-pad, but like Scoobes said, it's way more probable that they realised this was the better placement during their own development. Cause it's just that - better, than the Sony idea. You can't prove that it wasn't like that, so you can't claim they copied Nintendo. The time frame is too short to justify such a claim.

I don't know where to start here, that's just a gigantic pile of bullcrap right there. Oh well.

 

I just love love love love love that everything Microsoft does is "inspiration" and "taking it one step further". Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit. They took the buttons and diamond shape from the SNES and shuffled around the colors and ABXY order. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW that's some heavy evolution right there! The dual clickable dual analog, man that's a genius move...oh wait, that already existed on PS2 and Gamecube. Analog triggers, Gamecube first. But, man, they sure took the d-pad to another level, didn't they? Microsoft took every single thing from other controllers, the only thing they did was SHAPE. But I guess since people accepted that and nobody sued, there is now some lapse of time in place and now every feature the 360 controller hasis theirs and shall never be used again by other companies.

And that bullshit speculation on your part, that Microsoft totally didn't look what Nintendo did when they revealed their console 6 months prior to Microsoft...sure keep telling yourself that. The xbox launched 14 months after the gamecube was revealed! The xbox controller was shown first 6 months after the gamecube controller was revealed! That's plenty of time to switch up A LOT of things. The Xbox controller looked nothing like what Microsoft did prior with their Sidewinder line up! The evidence is stacking up mile high and you are walking in here like "nope, ain't believin it. Microsoft wouldn't do that." Cool story, Bro! Let's see some evidence to your faith.

Do the controllers look similar? Of course they do. That's what success does. The diamond shape was successful, so MS took it. The dual Analogs were succesful, so MS took them. Now the weightier shape was successful and Nintendo took it. If you want to call it stealing or copying, fine. But I'm calling out your hypocritic opinion that everything Microsoft did with their controller was all by themselves, that they are this holy entity that existed in a space where they possibly couldn't or wouldn't take "inspiration" from what other companies did and what was succesful. 90% of the xbox controller was copied and you know this. I am fine with the notion that Microsoft took stuff and now Nintendo took stuff. But keep that bullshit that Microsoft did it with pure intentions to advance humanity or something and Nintendo is this vile, lying, cheating, stealing company, to yourself.