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foxtail on 04 November 2012
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Viper1 said:
oniyide said:
Viper1 said:

Actually, yes, they were forced.    The deal with Sony would have ended them as a hardware maker and the deal with Philips never was finalized.  By the time, they had no other CD manufacturer they could strike up a deal with in time to launch the console.  They were already a year behind schedule.  

I'm not trying to make them a victim.  I'm explaining why things happend the way they did that lea to other things happening. 

I'm sorry if you don't like it but it's the truth.

Show me some proof or it didnt happen, because Sony and Philips are the ONLY disc makers in the world? Why not just make discs?? What was stopping them form doing that? Didnt they do something similar with GC? Hell who made the discs for the 64DD? Because from the quotes i read from them, even going into GC era they were saying how good cartridges were.

I'll show you the proof later. 

As for 64DD and GC, Matsushita provided the disc drive and discs.  In fact, Matshushita has provided the disc drive and discs for every single disc based Nintendo console.  You can't just "make discs".   You need a disc drive and the software to connect between the drive and your hardware.  As well as the software to write the games to the disc. 

And no, Sony and Philips were not the only drive developers out there.  JVC was another option but by the time things feel apart from Sony and then Philips, it was way beyond schedule.  

JVC is part of Matsushita Electric Industrial, aka Panasonic.

One thing I'd like to add is that there were 3 companies heavily involved in CD tech at the time.  Sony, Panasonic (Matsushita) and Phillips.  There were other CD companies but these were the big 3 back then.

All 3 ended up making their own consoles.

Sony - Playstation

Panasonic - 3DO

Phillips - CD-i

They even ended up in the providing the DVD gen consoles their drives.

Sony - PS2

Panasonic - Gamecube

Phillips - XBOX

DarkTemplar said:
To an old school gamer like me it's hard to imagine a Nintendo console without a 2D Mario game (and all the others classic 2D transformers). So while I can see the quality the library of the N64 and the Gamecube, they never felt like true Nintendo consoles to me.

I agree.  They went from 3 mainline 2D Marios on the NES, to 1 on the SNES, to 0 on the N64.

Also what happened to Streetfighter after the SNES. It sold 6.3 million copies on the SNES and then the next Nintendo consoles never saw a mainline Streetfighter since..