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RolStoppable said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

What's wrong with my list?

I guess people would disagree if they think a "hardcore" game is a game with sex, gore, and adult content. But I don't buy that. We have a ESRB rating system to tell us what is meant for adults and what is meant for all audiences.

Why do we, as video game fans, need to separate games into "hardcore" and "casual"? I've never heard someone call The Godfather or Schindler's List hardcore, or Singin' in the Rain casual. It just doesn't make much sense. And it's not productive at all.

What's wrong with your list is that it violates the basic definition of a hardcore game (a game that a person likes). Since many people around here like at least one series of the group GTA, CoD and Halo, they will not tolerate that you are trying to shove these games into the casual camp (games that people don't like).

Your last paragraph contains a rhetorical question, I would assume. I just explained why games began to get separated into "hardcore" and "casual". But to add to it, this categorisation is driven by elitism. Those who consider themselves hardcore usually also consider themselves superior.

Hey, you're preaching to the converted :)

You make some really great points. I think it would be an important step forward if video game players spent more time outside their comfort zone, and less time denigrating games they think are too "casual" or whatever. For the longest time I never played RTS games because I thought I would hate them, but now I really like them.