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Soundwave on 25 October 2012
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Not according to Reggie. Again, I'm going to go with what Reggie has to say on this subject. 
You think you know better then Reggie. I doubt you do. That is all. 


LOL dude. Reggie calls games like Zelda and Metroid core games in that very link you posted. He didn't say Nintendo doesn't make core games. He said Nintendo doesn't make the kind of core games that third parties do. 

The other guy was right to bail out on you. You're just taking him around in circles.

"We want fantastic content for that more active player who loves Metroid or Zelda [..] and we also recognize that we don't create that type of content ourselves.We're not good at it and it's not a key focus area."

Nintendo are not good at core games, nor did they focus on them. Reggie has literally said that. Two titles is next to nothing. The Wii was not aimed at core gamers and has cost them customer retention. If you won't accept that, you are arguing with Reggie, not me. 

 

Does Nintendo make games like COD, Battlefield, Bioshock? No. MS and Sony do, but Nintendo don't and those types of games are popular with core gamers that they want to attract with WiiU.

Just because Reggie only mentioned two titles doesn't mean that's the only core franchises they have. WTF...

Play4Fun listed some games for you that you seemed to ignore and he also got another quote of Reggie's:

"So we’ll continue to have all the family-friendly fare like Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Brothers U… but in addition, we’re going to have more active gamer content, which was something that was missing other than from Nintendo’s first party titles."

Notice what he says ? That Nintendo provided core first party titles for Wii. It's 3rd party core titles that they were lacking and are now looking to get with WIi U. It wasn't all just Wiifits, Wiimusic, Wiisports, NSMBWII or whatever that Nintendo released on Wii, there was also SMG, DKCR, Smash Bros, Sin and Punishment, Punch Out, Zelda TP & SS, Metroid, last Story, XenoBlade. It's pretty stupid to try to argue that those games are casual games. Use your common sense.

 Before you drag me into an argument and make me waste my time too, I'm going to ask you, what is the definition of a core game? 

Reggie already said that the core games Nintendo does is Zelda and Metroid. If Nintendo had many core franchises Reggie wouldn't have said they were no good at making core games....It's that simple. Unless you are telling me he got it wrong; is that the case? 

What I deem as a core game is irrelevant because I never made the claim that Nintendo are no good at core games. 

Remember i'm not saying the Nintendo are bad at making core games, I'm quoting Reggie.

 

O.M.F.G.!!!

 Just because Reggie mentioned only Zelda and Metroid doesn't mean that's the only ones they have. Was he suppose to start listing games in  an interview? Common sense, dude.

And Reggie did not say Nintendo are bad at making core games. He said Nintendo aren't good at making the kind of games 3rd parties do and he used Bioshock as an example.

Have you not noticed that Nintendo doesn't have any franchise like Sony's KillZone/UC or MS' Halo/GeOW? 

How many times does this have to be repeated to you?

Why can't you ever admit when you are wrong on something? No one will think less of you for it. Instead you keep repeating the same thing and apply all kinds of twists of logic to keep arguing. I just went to the E6760 thread and you are doing the exact same thing there.

Reggie said:

"We also recognize that we [Nintendo] don't create that type of content [core games] ourselves. We're not good at it and it's not a key focus area."

Are you saying Reggie was wrong and that Nintendo infact are good at making core content? You are arguing with the Reg, not me. 


Honestly though with this philosophy Nintendo's never going to be anything but the third place option for core/hardcore IP.

Microsoft and Sony simply focus on this way more, Nintendo's attitude is "we'll sign a third party deal or two", which usually ends up blowing up in their face (ie: RE4 on PS2) because third parties have to take care of their own interests first and foremost.