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Barozi on 15 October 2012
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Michael-5 said:
Barozi said:

How does DLC ruin games ?
Why do you feel the need to buy more cars with DLC when the game already ships with 500 ? (Though as far as I recall it was closer to 400)
So even if developers of fighting games hid a character on the disc that should be in the game. How does such a tiny piece of content ruin a game ?

 

Also how did you complete Fallout 3 and all it's DLC in 40 hours ? Did you only finish the main quests with the occasional side quest here in there ? I got 1500G in it and it took me 80 hours and there weren't any grinding achievements involved either.

I don't feel I need to buy more cars, but when new cars are available, I would like to use them in game. $1 per car (if you buy a pack of 9, $3-$5 per car otherwise) is a rip off. I mean I really want to race in a Scion FR-S among other cars, do I really have to pay $3 to race in one car? I only want to test it out, maybe drive in it for 20 minutes total.

P.S. Forza 3 shipped with 400, Forza 5 shipped with 500, I think. Both have about 100 DLC cars now.

For hiding content, that content should have been a part of the original game, forcing people to pay extra for that content is effectively increasing the price of the game.

Also those aren't my two biggest gripes about DLC. I'm a huge FallOut and Mass Effect fan and because of DLC I am forced to wait another year to buy Fallout GOTY/Ultimate with all the DLC included. Without DLC the game is okay length, but you know what DLC is basically just as long as the game. I don't want to spend $140 on a 40 hour game. With Mass Effect, since their is no GOTY ed, I buy the DLC as it releases, and this sucks for 2 reasons. a) it makes the game expensive and b) it forces me to play a second run of the game just to activate the DLC chapters.

As for FallOut 3, how did it take you 80 hours? I took my time and got 1500/1500 in actually a little under 40 hours. My XBL is Pay4NameChange, you can see my achievement history if you need confirmation. The core game took me about 15 hours, which was also the average on most reviews and each DLC took me about 3-4 hours. Then add in 5 hours for non achievment quests and stuff and....40 hours.

Oblivion took me 80 though.....wow that game is long.

See and Oblivion took me 40 hours to get 1250G. But that was admittedly almost a speedrun.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=80065

The only time posted for Fallout 3 GOTY was by you and they heavily differ from the completion time of Fallout 3, which were posted by several people.

I got 1000G after 55 hours and the remaining 500G from the DLC took me 20 hours. I did however additional quests that were not achievement related (84 hours is my total playtime and the point where I reached level 30, so you can't say that I did a lot of grinding)
Even if you didn't perceive it as such, but you rushed through the game, just like I did with Oblivion. But I played the PC version before, so I knew what to do mostly.

Therfore I don't doubt that someone can get 1500G in 70 hours or even 60, but 40 sounds like a speedrun, since it's significantly lower than the average.