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Soundwave said:
lilbroex said:
Soundwave said:


I'm not a Nintendo detractor, lol, I've been buying Nintendo consoles since the very first NES.

This label has existed since the Genesis days now 20 years ago, you must be pretty young if you think it started just last generation.

I agree cartoony shouldn't equal childish, but to many people it does.

Who's to say Nintendo doesn't like it anyway? They make a lot of money off kids, a market that Sony/MS largely neglect. Money is money.

Nintendo's concept of games for everyone is sound, I think the problem with it in the West is that what defines "family friendly" has changed from 1985 to today.


Doesn't matter if you buy them or not, that logic didn't become massievly popular until the Wii was released.

Nintendo always boasted the "most" mature games until last gen. They had GE64(the most influential FPS in history) straight out the door on the n64 and the RE Remake for the GC. I'm not evne going to get into Killer Instinct and Smash Bros. Are you going to say Smash Brothers is kiddie?

There were people who would call it that, but it was never a mjaor issue until the Wii came out. The kiddie argument is almost 100% synonomous with the argument of the Wii's graphics or as it went "The Wii can only do kiddie graphics". No time before the Wii did people outright deny Nintendo had Mature games and that mature games could sell like they do now.

Though I'm not going to argue this further beause its pointless. Teere isn't even evidence to back up your claim so saying even this much was foolish of me.


I don't think you really are reading correctly here and just getting emotional for no reason. "Don't shoot the messenger".

I've sat through these debates probably when you were in diapers. I remember when Star Fox came out (the original SNES one, not even talking about the N64 one) and there was some backlash among some people that it had "talking furry animals" as the pilots.

Really though would the game industry even be better off if Nintendo made the same hyper-violent/space marine/color devoid titles that everyone else makes? What's wrong with being more kid-friendly? I think if most people are honest they'll admit their most cherished game memories are from their childhood, not from the most recent blockbuster FPS.

No emotion here. Don't insinuate what my reasonsing is. I'm just poiting out the facts.

Sure people like that "existed". They "existed" and still exist for Sony and Microsoft as well but they were always a minority. It was never like it is now with so much hatred and disdain throught the gaming world.

Nintendo has always sported the "most"(content wise) violent games of every generation on their system.

Killer Instince, Duke Nukem Zero Hour, Turok 1,2,3 and Rage Wars, Bio Freaks, etc on the N6

Rsident Evil Reamke, Zero, 2, 3, Code Veronice, 4, Geist, Eternal Darkness etc on the N64.

Red Steel, The Calling, Jo-on the Grudge, House of the dead 2 & 3, Overkill, Tenchu 4, Madworld etc on the Wii


The Kiddie claims have never been true. Its just one of those things people continue to insist on because they can't think of any other insults that they could get to walk. Nintendo has always tried to make games that everyone could play.

Sure they've been given a kiddy image but them making kiddie games has never been true as kiddie would mean that the games were made specifically for children. They make games that are not restricted by age and that people of all ages can have fun with.

Smash Brother is the best exmaple. It has to be one of the most hardcore games in existence. Is it kiddie?