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hatmoza said:

Exuding his first disastrous week, he's a lot better than the stats show. Good vision, strong arm, and accurate to a degree (tends to overthrow). Really, his receivers are killing him.

Bernie was always on the local radio as a guest doing football analysis and even half time shows until he filed bankruptcy a few years back (Though I still think he does some radio) He's really admired by us cleveland fans. Him and Jim Brown are viewed as loyalist to the team and fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OSLy2hoaSA&feature=related (@0:42 the woman says a bar in Lakewood. That's funny because that's a where I live and it's very famous for the bar scene and the amount of bars for such a small suburb)

Then you have the 'kardiac kids', from what I've read and watched, captivated the hearts of browns' fans and non fans for their last moment comebacks and dramatic and emotional outcomes. I wish I were around back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey7RxucEVj0&feature=related

I know it's pitiful that we hold on to past accomplishments but it's all we have here in Cleveland.

Don't worry about living in the past.  People in Chicago still talk about '85 like it was yesterday.  :p

I loved Bernie Kosar because he had no physical talent whatsoever, but somehow pulled off great things.  The way that he threw the ball looked so ugly, but it almost always went exactly where he wanted it.  The man was known for NEVER being intercepted.  It's a shame that the Browns didn't make one of those Superbowls when they lost to the Broncos in such unbelievable fashion.  The time that Byner fumbled made me want to cry for the entire city of Cleveland and I'm not even from there.

I am old enough to barely remember a guy named Brian Sipe that had an unbelievable season that ended in heartbreak.  He wasn't heard from again. 



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