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CrazzyMan said:
@Final-Fan,
In conclusion, your graph FAVORS the older Mario over the newer Mario and it STILL beats one of them. Since it is certain that Wii will beat N64 LTD, and SNES LTD,
THAT doesn`t MEAN that NON gamers CASUALS will buy SMG. Do you see SMG sales in Japan? Why it`s only 900k? You expect to reach 2 mln. there?
SMG DOESN`T SELL LIKE WII SPORT IN JAPAN = DOES NOT appeal to non-gamers casuals.

p.s. We don`t have data about usa/europe sales od Marion N64 and SMW, so other comparisons are worthtless.

p.p.s. That was ONE of my points. And yes, we need MORE data. =)

If you truly read my post, instead of skimming it, you would know the answer to your question:  "So it seems that Mario is much less popular, relatively speaking, in Japan now".  I don't know if it will reach 2m in Japan, but it doesn't matter unless you are ONLY speaking of Japan.  I thought we were talking about WW sales and using the Japan graph only because Japan has data going back farther.  As you yourself point out in your response to my postscript. 

HOWEVER, the lack of complete data for NA and EUR doesn't mean we have lack ANY data.  The news article I quoted has numbers DIRECTLY from Nintendo itself; surely they are reliable enough for us to use?  The numbers are probably shipped to retailers but we all know that eventually stuff shipped to retailers gets bought by consumers and anyway by late 1999 shipping to each territory ought to be very close in proportion to sales in each territory.  the PROPORTIONS are what I was concerned with.  It appears to me that you latched on to the first excuse you could find to discard my data in order to ignore my logical conclusions drawn from that data, and call them "worthless".

IT DOESN'T MATTER whether SMG gets bought by hardcore or casuals or supercasuals or trained monkeys.  The SALES are what matter.  Are you basing your whole argument, as it seems to me that you are, on the assumption that "yes, sales are great, but that was all the GAMERS and now they've all bought it and none of the "non-gamer casuals" will buy it."  Is that a good summary of your position?  Because if so then nothing else will really be important; you are basing your whole position on IGNORING past sales trends so studying past sales trends is completely useless.

Please address my second paragraph clarify your position. 



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