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retroking1981 on 04 September 2012
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kain_kusanagi said:


I was there man, the NES had graphics like you wouldn't believe. We had just come from the era of Atari and Coleco. Sure the Master System had more power, but it didn't have the graphics. The NES had smooth scrolling graphics that made you think you were playing a cartoon show.  Home computers even had trouble doing that. In processing power it may not have been top dog, but graphicaly it was a show stopper. And I did say graphical powerhouse.

I'd rather have a Gamecube 2 than the Wii. I don't like motion controls, even when done right like in Skyward Sword. It would have been a much better game without motion controls. Honestly, if my choices are "Gamecube 2 fails so Nintendo goes 3rd party like Sega" or "Wii motion controls, Wii U Tablet gimicks", I'll take the 3rd party Nintendo with standard controls for multiplatform Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.

That's coming from someone who's been playing Nintendo games since before there was a Nintendo Home Entertainment System. It would be sad to see an end of an era, but the painfull lose of Sega consoles taught me that the name on the machine doens't matter so long as I still get the games, with standard controls that is.


So was I and Master System blew it out the water for power. Don't get me wrong the NES was a much better console as it had a far stonger library and pretty much all the support. I can't think of a NES game thats as colourful as this for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEZY0L0SEs&feature=relmfu 

The Master System also suffered from a lot less flicker and slow down in games. But having said that if you mean 'graphical powerhouse' as in the NES could handle anything that generation produced (which the Wii can't) then I agree with you. I guess it's like comparing the PS2 to the XBox.

 

As far as the rest of this thread goes I see a lot of people complaining that new Nintendo games lack challenge compared to their old one's and that they dont make enough new IPs.

Well first off I think games all round have got easier. Whats harder Mega Man or God of War? Also is Mario World for example much harder than NSMBWii? Or are we just remembering stuggling with it when we were 10 or whatever? Do we just think NSMBWii is easy because we honed or skills in the late 80s on 2D games like Castlevania? For example my 9 year old nephew can run around easily enough causing havoc in Saints Row 3 and loves it. I put NSMBWii in his hand and he struggled to finish levels on his own.

As far as new IPs go I half agree but unfortunately the industry relies on sequels and guarenteed hits to survive. We're always gonna have Resident Evil, Halo, Gran Turismo etc, its the way things are. Heck wasn't Gears of War meant to be a trilogy? We've already got another coming this year! God of War...  6 games in 8 years, 4 of which have been re-released twice already, and again we have another on the way. Do you think Gears/God of War won't be around in the late 2020's celebrating their 25th anniversaries?

Are Nintendo almost unlucky that they have too many IPs that people demand sequels to? Imagine the uproar if Zelda didn't make an appearence on the WiiU?

What Hideo Kojima done for the last 15 years?  Yet look how well received Zero Gounds has been