kitler53 said:
you know, if you weren't such a wii fan i'd have let this slide... but for years now you have been part of the "the mainstream doesn't need graphics, or online, or whatever" mantra. and you know what, you aren't entirely wrong. yes graphics and traditional gaming matter to me but the wii proves a heck of a lot of the market that were buying ps2 a gen ago don'tt care. so let's start with where you are soo absolutely wrong (its almost sad anyone still spews this (basically bigoted) bull shit). that's the part where you say "99 cent iphone games". mobile games have come soo far since their launch 4 years ago. not only are there plenty of big name franchises on smartphones, they're selling for higher price points ($5 - $10). now dont' get me wrong, these are 1 to 1 ports of what we "traditional gaming" but they pretty good overall. now here is where you sound silly. that same "good enough" matra you've been repeating about the lack of wii advances not mattering to the mainstream is just as applicable to mobile gaming. it's the EXACT same thought. ...and when the mainstream leave there won't be enough money to support the games i want to play. the more than just "good enough" experiences are expensive to build and there is a required critical mass in audience size to justify creating them. look at have shit-tastic the vita is doing and behold your future: small audience, low sales, questions about product viability. even the 3DS is stalling everywhere but japan which is not coincidental to the fact smartphones are far more popular in the west than japan. |
1) Outside of a few times I've played NSMB with my girlfriend, I haven't touhed my Wii since the disappointing release of Skyward Sword. If you read any of my posts since last October, you'd know I'm heavily into online PC gaming with both Battlefield 3, Dota 2, etc. I love how you assume my bias right away and base all my points off of that...
2) "now here is where you sound silly. that same "good enough" matra you've been repeating about the lack of wii advances not mattering to the mainstream is just as applicable to mobile gaming. it's the EXACT same thought. "
You're taking that point far out of context, and I actually didn't mention a single word about that in my post. Way to address something I didn't even bring up! You should get bonus points or something...
3) You mention that iphone games aren't just 99 cent games anymore, but are replicating more complex designs we see in portable handhelds. Nowhere did I mention all iphone games are 99 cents. No where. Good job completely missing my point and actually helping my point at the same time. Did you just mention iphone games becoming more complex and offering fuller experiences? Are you assuming that will continue to advance more so into the future as mobile eats up handhelds completely?
FANTASTIC! Now you have your traditional games on the mobile device that you and millions of others can now enjoy. You haven't lost anything. Your gaming is still alive, just on a different platform.
4) The vast mainstream may find that things are "good enough" at certain points, and that is perfectly fine. It caters to their tastes and gives them what they enjoy. However, there are millions and millions of gamers who love more complex experiences with high production values, and those consumers won't magically change their tastes, and they won't magically disappear.
There really isn't anything to be afraid of. Except for the possibility of some of your favorite gaming companies (ex: Sony) going out of business due to putting out products consumers don't care enough about. Outside of that, gaming will move on and continue to evolve with 30 million LoL players, 15 million Battlefield players, 10+ million Skyrim players, 25+ million 2D Mario lovers, etc, etc, etc. There is room for all different sorts of gaming experiences. You nor the fans who share similar tastes to you will magically disappear.
Oh and for the record, I have absolutely nothing against mobile platforms.
