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to add that to the discussion between pie, apm and others. if people like the games or not, but ea is maybe the most important game developer on this planet making games for almost every platform with some of the biggest and yes also best franchises. if people like those games or not is absolutely irrelevant if it comes to the importance of their games.

i love fifa games like millions of europeans do. football (called soccer in some countries) is the biggest sport on this planet with huge gap to the second most important (whatever this is) and they have the best or second best game for that. maybe it is boring for some, but that is nothing more than personal unimportant taste (for this discussion) because all apm did was quoting someone who said ea games suck, he didn't say they suck in his opinion (which i could still not understand because even if you don't like very good games shouldn't stop you to understand that they are still high quality games in their genre)