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mrstickball said:

What evidence?

What evidence did Nintendo need for the UpadPro? Probably the fact that no major IP released with a proper port to the Wii's control scheme. COD is simply the figurehead of that. Half of the developers last generation didn't push their IPs into the Wii for that reason among others (the other primarily being cost to port due to graphical limitations).

Bagh, have you forgotten that the Call of Duty series was released on the Wii for the last two major iterations?

Have you forgotten that the Wii had its own Classic Controller? Really, really, what point are you defending??

Weak third party support? Which developers and publishers have you talked to? What did they say about their support of the console?

We know little to nothing about 3rd party support this far. Will you say "Because there is nothing to show"??

Rather, the little we know is that out of the box the WiiU will have a good majority of the big IPs coming multiplatform alongside the 360 and the PS3, as well as not inconsiderable exclusives from Ubisoft such as Ghost Recon Online, Rayman Legends and ZombiU.

They have also said that they will reveal _even more_ third party support when they release the price and release date.

That is not even tackling the future support of the WiiU when the successors to the 360 and to the PS3 release. So what IS your point?

Wii U not next-gen? That should be pretty obvious. The power of the WiiU is certainly not next-gen. Heck, the $99 OUYA is coming with similar horsepower out of the box. That should tell you something about what Nintendo put into the system.

The Ouya doesn't have a control with a screen does it?

What are the specs of the WiiU for you to claim as much about the OUYA? Nintendo said that they have put in more horsepower into this system, so not it is not pretty obvious.

That's without even explaining that generations are not defined by power but by relevance in a period of history. Of course I understand what you mean, but you are still claiming on uncertain ground, just like Pachter. In other words, he has no idea whether what he says is true.

In this case, Pachter is going to be right. The WiiU will sell <50m units through its lifespan, and Nintendo will be in a very precarious situation, as their handheld market will continue to deteriorate.

And as usual, I am quite confident that Pachter will be very wrong once again. The man simply does not understand the nature of the business, especially not Nintendo's strategy, and he never will.

The funny thing is that I made this thread to shed positive light on him. I guess we just can't get away without talking about what an arse he is after all.