The Dark Knight Rises is THE best superhero movie thus far *SPOILERS*

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S.T.A.G.E. said:

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Mirson said:

The first half was boring, imo, and had poor pacing and a lot of underdeveloped or pointless characters. It tried to fit a lot of sub-plots but ended up sloppy. My family hated the first half as well. That 1hr & 20 minutes bogs down the movie a lot, so no, it's not the best hero movie for me. In fact, this movie made me appreciate TDK a whole lot more.

The beginning introduced bane the exact same way Joker was introduced. This is the only batman trilogy that delved deeply into the love life and family life of Bruce Wayne. It had a great twist and showed a deeper darker side of Batmans relationship with Gotham that none of the other batmans ever showed. 

Yeah, I thought that was kind of lame.  "Wait, he was one of the guys with a mask/bag over his head the entire time?  No way!"

What?

Like you said, he was introduced the same way as Joker.  A bunch of mooks working for a big bad storm a place with their face covered (masks in TDK, bags in TDKR) and everyone wonders where their leader is until (GASP!) it turns out he was one of them all along!  Bane should have had a different entrance.

All of Batmans adversaries are crime bosses with their own style of doing things. Banes philiosphy in the movie was far more intelligent by design than anything Joker did in the last Batman. I edited my last post by the way.

Where did I imply that I didn't like Nolan's style of filmmaking?  The Dark Knight is my favorite movie of all time, and I thought Rises was fantastic.  That said, I thought the way that Bane was introduced was lame because it was very similar to the way the Joker was introduced.  The second they all came in with bags on their heads, I knew one of them was going to be Bane.  It was great in the dark knight. But here it just felt recycled, and Nolan could have come up with a more surprising reveal for him.

Where did I mention anything about the characters' philosophies?

You said it was all the same. My rebut was that all of Batmans advesaries have their own philosophy of fighting him and trying to bring terror to Gotham. Bane politicYally and socially took over the city with an undercurrent of soft acharist/dictatorship. Joker wanted to prove every man had his price and he was superior because he couldnt be bought. I would've loved to see Nolans take on the Riddler. That would've been amazing. Perhaps if he continues the franchise with Robin.

You're applying too great a scope to what I said.  You and I aren't actually disagreeing on anything--Bane was very well written and a very different  kind of threat than the Joker.  I am literally only talking about the similarities between their introductory scenes XD