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lilbroex said:

I must disagree. With the current gen the very definiton of a gamer itself was almost completely redefined to people who like violent, realistic action games.

I am a true hardcore gamer as they were in the past. A gamer who likes variety and plays games taht are good, not just ames of a specific genre.'

What people call core gamers now, I call monochrome gamer. They don't play games in general, they just play or two type of games in one or two genres (ie. First Person and Third Person Shooters). They had trouble with controls taht were optomized for there unary style of playing. People who not pre biased against the control found games that they made better and games that they made worst. Its all up to the developers

There are many games that gave the option to play with the motion controls and more standard controls (No More Heroes 2, Moder Warfare 3, Shawn White Snowboarding). Most people took motion in those games as it made the experience more fun.

The ultimate goal of any game is to be fun.

Fun is a very subjective term, and to some people it's more fun to be able to use quick button responses in action games of all types (shooters, platformers, fighters, ...) than using motion controls in more adventure/immersive experiences.

To each their own really it doesn't make one more a gamer than another. Your attitude is the same as theirs, you're just on the other side. A true gamer is someone who likes games, within that group there are people who like certain types of games and some who like others.

What I was trying to say is that those who like quick button controls will not find that in motion controlled experiences in most cases because the motions may require a bit more latency as compared to the hit of a button. However, they are seeing what is a disadvantage to them without looking at the benefits that come with motion controls. As such, if this is explained to them and they still say it's not for them, well all the power to them, it's THEIR game, their choice. However, to call them gimmicks when they just don't understand the added value is something I personally don't and never will accept. It fringes bigotry imho and I won't accept that. I encourage you to do the same.