sperrico87 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
sperrico87 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Banning guns at this point in American's history would only put the general population in more danger. Banning liqueur didn't stop drinking. The ban of drugs doesn't stop illegal drug use. Drunk driving is illegal but people are killed nearly every day by a drunk driver. Hell, you're not supposed to speed, but you probably do anyway.
It's an old point and people who want to ban guns like to argue it doesn't matter. But I believe that if you ban guns, criminals will still have them and law abiding citizens will be defenseless. Will a ban on gun ownership reduce home gun accidents? Yes it will, but it will also reduce home defense. Criminals break the law, they will continue to break the law. What criminals do with guns today breaks the law. If the law bans guns those same criminals will break that law too. Most criminals are probably breaking a law by owning or carrying a gun anyway, but they just go and break the law anyway.
The Aurora Colorado shooter broke many laws when he opened fire on those innocent victims. To break those laws he plans for months and collected an armory of ammo and firearms. If guns were outlawed he would have found alternative methods to build his arsenal. He may have even used an alternative weapon like a pipe bomb. A gun ban would not have stopped him or even delay him. But you know what could have stopped him. Maybe, just maybe if we all carried guns and he knew that he theater would be filled with armed law abiding citizens, maybe he wouldn't have done it. Maybe he would have figured it wasn't worth the risk, knowing that as soon as he opened fire he would be gunned down by those he threatened. Maybe if more people took gun safety classes and earned conceal carry permits we would all be safer in public.
You can argue all day about what this country would be like if guns had been banned generations ago. But no such law was passed and it's too late. Guns are everywhere. The problem is they are in the wrong hands. More responsible citizens should carry than criminals. It's backwards. Why do so many people look to others for safety instead of protecting themselves? Why do they complain about criminals yet do nothing practical?
Last time I checked guns are a tool, a tool that can not harm anyone without human action. If a zoo keeper takes a monkey's ball away because the monkey keeps throwing the ball at his face. The monkey will just throw shit, maybe even just in spite. With guns and criminals, you can't even take the "ball" away, but passing a ban law would surely cause a shit storm.
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True. Government prohibitions do not work, and have never worked. Just look at the War on Drugs. What a waste of money and lives that has been. $1 trillion dollars, nothing to show for it. All it does is drive the market underground and breed more crime and resentment.
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Of everything I said, THAT is all you took from it? My point wasn't even against drug and alcohol laws. My point was that criminals break laws no matter how many laws you set.
Personally I'd rather live in a country where every good decent American owns a gun rather than a crack pipe. Drugs probably cause more gun violence than any other motive and legalizing drugs wouldn't stop that. Maybe if drugs were given out for free to all addicts, but that's a disgusting society I'd never want to be part of.
But, all that is beside the point. This topic is about a tragedy and gun laws. My heart breaks for the victims and victim's families of the Aurora Colorado shooting. My stance on gun control remains firm. You can't stop criminals from committing crimes with guns and you shouldn't stop good decent citizens from defending themselves. If anything more people should earn conceal carry permits.
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Um....I agree with you? Have you seen none of my other posts on this thread? I think we're in full agreement on this topic.
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I'm sorry if it sounded like I was being caustic, that was not my intent. I just wanted to reiterate my point because it seemed like you may have focused on only a supporting argument.
