leatherhat said:
kain_kusanagi said:
curl-6 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
curl-6 said:
My opinion on gun ownership is simple; the average person is too irresponsible and too stupid to be allowed to own something as dangerous as a gun. |
Couldn't the same be said of owning something as dangerous as a car? What about having children? Seems like any idiot can get behind the wheel of a 2 ton killing machine or fail to properly raise a batch of future welfare cases.
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We license people to drive, don't we?
And I fully believe people should have to get a license to have kids too.
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Oh yeah, that driver's license thing sure works. All those drunk drivers, sleepy drivers, texting drivers, who've kill so many must have been driving without a license. Being an idiot doesn't seem to stop people from getting a license, and people without licenses do drive illegally. The same is true with guns and criminals. Gun crimes are by definition illegal, but criminals commit crimes. Pass as many laws as you want, people will find ways to be idiots and commit crimes.
What do you want to do. Create some kind of draconian class system where only high class people can own cars, guns, and have children? Who decides who is worthy? How is it enforced? Where do individual rights begin and state control end?
It's easy to just say, idiots should not be allowed to be idiots. It's another thing to live in a nanny state where your government has more say in your life than you do. What's next, fat people not alowed to eat? How about ugle people not alowed outside?
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Individual rights begin and the state control is total. You are controlled from cradle to the grave. Because if we don't let the state run stupid people (and they are all stupid unless they want total state control) will do stupid and evil things. And as we all know one person can be evil but a collective of people in a government can only be altruistic.
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You are a cynical elitist. The whole point of the constitution is to prevent the kind of oppression you seem to want. And you only want it because you think you are above those that would be oppressed.
