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Jay520 said:
Slimebeast said:
Jay520 said:
Slimebeast said:
Nov 2013 together with X720. They don't want to wait. Sony lost so many $ billions by being one year later than Microsoft.

If I remember correctly Sony themselves projected 12 million PS3s shipment in the current Fiscal year so the sales are definitely decreasing. Next year could be down at 9 million shipped.

This new slim will still be produced for a good number of years since it'll sell along with the PS4 a few years into next gen.



It is my understanding that Sony lost $ billions because the PS3 was expensive to manufacture. Not because of the late release. Had they launched in 2005, the ps3 would have been even more expensive and they probably would have lost even more monies.

Yes, because Sony thought they were the masters of the universe and thought people would actually pay $600 and they'd still dominate. That plan failed after a few months of horrible sales. After that they have been desperately trying to undercut Microsoft by

Now ask yourself. How can Microsoft ask a $100 premium for its console? If I can get a PS3 with a 250GB for $229 I shouldnt have to pay $299 for a 250GB X360. It should cost $199 because Xbox was the underdog, has no Blu-ray, has no free-online and has fewer xclusives. And yet they can over-charge because they secured the online echo-system with core gamers earlier.

The main X360 SKU has cost $299 for 4 years now (it went from $349 to $299 in Summer 2008). That's a $0 drop.

In the same time PS3 went from $399 to $249 and soon down to $229. That's a $170 drop and loss of revenue.

 



You've misunderstood me. It wasn't the lack of sales that made Sony lose so much money. It was the fact that every time they sold a console, they lost hundreds of dollars. A Ps3 cost a few hundred dollars more than $600 if I remember correctly.

Sony lost most of that money in the early years, correct, but if you instead look at it as a pure profit comparison to MS, you'll discover that while Microsoft is making a $1-1.5 billion yearly profit off of Xbox, Sony is breaking even at best (Xbox Live subs explain a big part of Xbox's profit, around $600 million according to a recent thread but not nearly all of it).

I am saying, look at the premium. MS is making huge bucks on each hardware sold. Sony for some reason can't charge the same premium. You must ask yourself, why can't Sony charge $299 for its console when Microsoft can? That $50 difference per unit sold becomes more than $500 million per year in lost profits.