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MDMAlliance on 17 July 2012
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Chark said:
MDMAlliance said:
People who say pretty visuals add to the experience of a game, yet bash the 3DS for the "gimmick 3D" I would like to point out how ironic that is. Also, there's not much more you can improve on in terms of graphics like you could have between the PS2/Xbox generation to the PS3/360 generation as graphics have become much closer to things where it becomes harder for us to tell the difference. Power, on the other hand, is different. More power means more capabilities, and a lot of the time power and graphics go hand in hand, but that is eventually going to go away as graphics will become as good as we can perceive it. However, new ways of gaming is almost just as important as more power to a system, and bringing both is even better.

People saying that Iwata is just saying that for PR or whatever, I would think that anything anyone says in the company is PR. Sony bashing Nintendo's 3DS calling it a kid's console is PR talk. Seriously, I keep hearing the same things blathered about this over and over again.

I'm not sure who you are referring to, since no one in this thread mentioned the 3DS's 3D or when you'd have a situation where people are talking about both at the same time. To start the stereoscopic 3D that the 3DS uses cuts the resolution in half, so really it is reducing the graphical fidelity of the games. Same goes to all stereoscopic 3D. The 3DS's 3D is cool, but it could have been better with a little more power behind the system to make up for the resolution drop and a larger screen to better display the 3D and increase the "sweet spot" size. 3DSXL is a defenite welcomed model. Anyway, to the point, I don't see the irony.

I think next gen graphics are going to suprise people because there isn't really that much to show people what those graphcis will be like. Well, aside from the various demos recently, but for some reason people seem to shrug it off like its not going to happen. If anything, those demos showcase the early less impressive graphical capabilities we will see next gen.


I'm referring to this because I know these people exist, here as well as many other places.   Your counter to my point is really missing the idea of what I was saying.  I wasn't talking about the 3DS specifically in terms of graphics but rather using it as an example where the same people I've seen bash something such as the 3D on the 3DS (as a concept since most people aren't even referring to the resolution of the system in the first place and this argument also becomes quite comparative when we delve into it deeper) talk all about how graphics provide the deeper experience and all.  

Let me put it in a way you'll understand exactly what I mean then.   HD 3D vs regular HD in gaming, the idea behind what I said is that people would call the HD 3D a gimmick, yet claim that the HD would  add to the game experience.  It's ironic because 3D effects are more or less in the same area as a boost in graphical quality in many respects.  The argument with better graphics are that you can now see things you couldn't see before with lower quality graphics, but the exact same principle applies to 3D.  

@oniyide

'Going to have to disagree with this, as a 3DS owner the 3d is nothing more than the 3DS' HD. DOes the 3d give the game a little more "oomph"?? Yes, at least some of them. but so does having 720 pixels. if i hook up my PS3 to a standard TV(which i have) the game will lose some detail from not having extra pixels, but lets be real, its still the same game and the game would still look better than most things released on last gen consoles or Wii.'

^--- The part you bolded was just to make a point.  I personally don't use the 3D very much, and I do not think a graphics update on a game adds much to a game.  It may be easier to look at, and seem neater and lets you immerse yourself easier, but the same can be said about 3D.  The 3DS' 3D is only one form of utilizing 3D, and it could be taken further when technology advances, and THIS is what I'm trying to say.  3D is a form of graphics improvement.