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Jumpin said:
MrBubbles said:
The books...they are not very good. you see the problems stem from mr martin being an unimaginative sick fuck.
you dont read much, so you may not find even realize the issues. plenty of people seem to like the books for some unfathomable reason that tends me towards an even worse view of humanity.

the only real plot development in the books comes from people dying. and sometimes there isnt a logical reason for them to die or he just gets tired of writing them...so he does things like having some bitch shit a shadow from her cunt to go off and kill people. you want some deaths of course in a book. it creates concern over the characters, because you are uncertain of whats going to happen to them. but in this case...you get to a point when you expect everyone to die. oftentimes for no reason at all.

almost all the characters in the books are very one dimensional. almost parodies even...


As I've said, GRR Martin is fantasy for the Twilight generation; there is a lot of negativity that goes on in the story - he shoe-horns it in like some teenager attempting to write a tragedy story. He also adds in a lot of gratuitous scenes (like when the Dwarf character was about to rape the 12 year old Stark girl); and this is the sort of stuff that fans will mistakenly call "depth" and "edginess". 

For the people who like it because of all the death in it, and wondering who's going to suddenly die next, have I got a movie genre for you! Start with this one:

 

Okay, that is ridiculous.

At no point did Tyrion try to rape Sansa (your inability to even remember their names makes me wonder whether you've even read the book) and indeed, he does quite the opposite. She is his wife, and he can legally do whatever he wants with her. He sees that she is uncomfortable and leaves her alone.

This is the same character who [storm of swords] kills his own father with a crossbow.

How can you possibly say that the characters have no depth? Tyrion is one of the greatest characters in any series ever.

There's hardly any sex at all in that series. The show exaggerates it enormously. Tyrion does initially seem sex-crazed with all of his chasing after prostitutes, but that's because of the fact that nobody ever loved him and his father ordered his wife to be gangraped by an entire platoon of soldiers. That would mess up anybody, and he deals with it remarkably well.



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