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happydolphin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo products were considered toys before the Playstation turned them into profitable multimedia hub. Cell Phones were just phones before Apple create Iphones and Black Berrys came along. A multimedia hub isn't a gimmick, it's a legit device where you can play your games, DVD's, MP3's, Video chat and more. The PS3 is the savior of the Blu Ray format and the cause of affordability for families around the world, just as they and Microsoft (following behind) were for DVD's. Motion controls brings casual appeal back to gaming. Yes....thats true...it increased the market size by allowing people to hate gaming or find it to be too much of a challenge to finally have fun with it without complexities. So? Kinect one-upped that and Microsoft is using those legs to stay ahead of the PS3. The PS3 is the only losing console thats been able to stay close to its main competitor primarily off of multimedia and core titles nearly tripling the sales of the Gamecube if it hasn't already.

As far as I can tell the only part that made Playstation unprofitable is their emphasis on multi-media, blu ray and unneeded value-adds that have nothing or little to do with gaming.

Is it just me or the 360 did fine without Blu-Ray, without the do-all cell processor? hmmm... maybe they should just stick to making game machines.

But wait, that's what Nintendo does.

Gimmicks are things that attract. Pure gimmicks are products that attract while bringing little value. To what might I ask? To gaming.

Hence, the Playstation 2's DVD capabilities, the Playstation 3's blu-ray playback capabilities are all pure gimmicks as far as gaming is concerned.

Motion controls are the pole opposite. Sorry to break it to you.

Are they a technology in the making? Yes. Are they fully ready? No. Are they gimmicks? No. They would be gimmicks if your movements reflected nothing happening on screen, but that's not the case. If it was, I would have agreed with you a long time ago.

But my conclusion here is that the Gamecube is the opposite of the Playstation line of products when it comes to the gaming industry. It was actually meant to be a gaming machine and not a media hub + dishwasher. Hence, the cube is the savior of gaming in contrast with the Playstation family of products, which are gimmicks.

I thought the same as you about Blu Ray being unneeded, but until I got a PS3 I didnt realize that Blu Ray is pretty much the last great disc format before we go full digital. Seriously, it holds massive amounts of information.

Motion controls will take the back seat to a newer gimmick which is the Nintendo is using. Nintendo is always trying to use something new and fresh to keep pushing gaming in a new direction, but nothing will stick with the wii-mote. Im sure they will have one or two games, but they dont want to segment their crowd. Nintendo wanted to make the Super NES  a CD based console but their contract with Sony failed so I believe they sided with Panasonic. Anyway, that was more than enough fuel that Sony needed once the gig was dropped and Nintendo walked out on them at CES. A legitimate CD based console was what the world was looking for in the 90's and Sony gave it to them with a wealth of games to boot. Third parties took the risk on Sony because Sony let them make what they wanted to freely without as much oversight as Nintendo and gaming is being taken to another level. When Nintendo was the hottest console on the planet it was still under ridicule from PC gamers and Arcade fanatics because of how low the quality of the graphics were but in the end Nintendo had the games. Now it's competitors have those and are pushing consoles power.