| happydolphin said: The argument and where it doesn't work (doesn't convince me): The issue is, yes, "is 2D Mario greater than 3D Mario?". But the instrument he used to argue it was based on a metric, in this occurrence: sales. Sales can be applied as a metric of success and popularity, irrespective of the genre or platform, or any variety you could mention. The variety will tell you the why, the sales will tell you the results. Having said that, let me explain... The way he measured it in his argument (the one with the sales chart) was by measuring sales. Sales of one thing versus sales of another. What I was trying to say, using proof by contradiction, is that the same measure (sales) could be used against Mario Kart. If Mario Kart is undeniably of the same caliber (or very likely) as compared to 2D Mario, then how can this argument stand, if it's contradicting that basic fact (that 2D Mario and Mario Kart are comparable in terms of market power). Was I more clear this time? |
*shrug*
No analogy is perfect!
So let's try another one!
The bottom line in nearly every race is the same metric, in this case 'final time.'
Three separate events are running a marathon-length race. One is running the marathon on foot via undeveloped trails someplace mountainous. The second is running the marathon on foot in an urban environment. The third is a bike race.
If the question is "what environment is most conducive to running a fast time in a marathon?", why is the third race irrelevant?
Don't expect this to be a perfect analogy, because it's not perfect. Just use it to understand why using the same comparative metric does not lead yield equally useful information.
With that in mind, the flaw that you're making is in thinking that 2D Mario is comparable to Mario Kart. They are not. They are in different genres, attempting to reach different audiences, and made to scratch different itches. This is why a direct comparison between the two is not as important as you're making it out to be.
And if you can't accept why that's relevant to the question at hand, then accept that the two are not comparable in market power. Again, with the exception of the Wii version, MK has consistently sold millions less than its contemporary 2D Mario counterpart.
And if you can't accept THAT, then please accept the idea that you should start a new thread to decide if MK7 not blazing past NSMB in 2012 is indicative that the former is in trouble. Hopefully, the weight of responses will do what a single person has thus far failed to do!
