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RolStoppable said:
happydolphin said:

That was possibly their aim but I'd be hard pressed to find that that was their expectation. If so, they must be retarded.

For normal people with reasonable expectations, the 360 went from market newbie at 25M units sold to a whopping 65M sold and the gen's not even over, leading the HD race over last gen's King, it was an undeniable success.

So why are you debating this anyways?

Because you made a statement that is verifiably wrong. The Xbox 360 did not meet Microsoft's expectation, so if the proposed logic was applied, the Xbox 360 was a failure as well. Not a resounding success like you said.

First of all I'd like a link. Second of all, this is completely unimportant in the big picture.

The point of my post was to show that what matters are the expectations when judging success. Whether my examples were correct or not is really missing the heart of the dialogue.

But that doesn't surprise me, since your motive isn't greater understanding, but bash the dolphin.