Mazty said:
1. Let's see the figures. I'm curious as to how much the 360 has brough in when you consider the millions that will have been replaced due to the RROD. Each RROD will cut into the revenue if MS have to replace it.
2. Every console sells software so what exactly is your point?
3. That's a completely subjective value. Has it increased the brand enough that it's worth $100 of $ 1 billion? And what about the losses due to bad publicity? Again, how much is that worth?
4. It only just outsells the wii this year and last. Every year before then it was outsold dramatically by the wii, which has almost 50% more console on the market...A pretty redundant point if I've ever seen one, more so if you consider the PS3 now outsells the 360.
5. Halo ODST & reach sold less then Halo 3. And where outsold by CoD. Again, what is your point? Unless you have financial figures to show the worth of the Halo series, it is a subjective point which is redundant when talking about economics.
6. Xbox Live profits are how much? And does this offset the replacement 360's and ultimately make the console more profitable then the PS3 or Wii?
7. Who cares about trophies? We are talking about money here, not what you as a gamer enjoy.
8. And you determined Kinect was a success how? Sales for the 360 temporarily increased, but now have dropped lower then the PS3. Seems a bit of a one-hit wonder to temporarily increase sales rather then any sustained increase.
9. Most developers develop for every console. That is to do with coding and it makes more sense to release a game on 3 consoles then 1. What exactly is your point here?
10. Complete profit even though the gaming division posted a loss??? Also if it has been so successful then why does it have the lowest sales of all 3 consoles? And how strong is the brand name? The Xbox simply joined that generation late on but was not chastised in anyway other then it was rather large. Also with the failure of HD DVD this begs the question how will MS get out of the problem with optical media? If they go for just downloads, then that reduces their market, and if they opt for bluray then they give the competition money. Just saying "XBOX has recognition" doesn't mean anything. Enron had recognition and where are they now?
Please leave any fan rhetoric out of this disucssion (trophy system). This is about money, not what you personally enjoy about the console. Unless you can show certain features/events have increased profit and/or sales, don't mention the point.
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http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/110/1104399p1.html
Easily over $1b every year since then due to higher Live userbase. Easily making up for RROD.
It doesn't have the lowest sales of all 3 consoles. Where did you get that from ?
"gaming" division is so much more than just Xbox 360. Explanation for the loss:
"EDD operating income decreased reflecting lower revenue, payments made to Nokia related to joint strategic initiatives, and higher other operating expenses. Research and development expenses increased $100 million or 35%, and sales and marketing expenses increased $79 million or 50%, primarily reflecting higher headcount-related expenses. Cost of revenue decreased $80 million or 6% primarily due to lower volumes of Xbox 360 consoles and standalone Kinect sensors sold, offset in part by payments made to Nokia"
