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happydolphin on 18 April 2012
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RolStoppable said:
Walkthrublazer3 said:

What do you mean 3D Mario spawns virtually nothing!

Super Mario 64 revolutionized 3D gaming. It's literally is one of the most influential videos games ever created. It spawned a ton of great games such as.

1. Banjo and Kazooie, Banjo Tooie

2. Donkey Kong 64

3. Ocarina of Time

4. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark

5. Jet Force Gemini and Conkur's bad fur day

You can't honeslty tell me that all these games are bad.

All 3D gaming owes gratitude to Mario 64.

Just like Super Mario Bros layed the foundation of how to make a video game, Mario 64 layed the foundation on how to make a 3D game. While it's true none of the newer 3D Mario games were as influential as Mario 64, neither are the newest 2d Mario games. In fact I would say that 3D Mario's are more innovative and creative. NSMB and NSBMW are great games that are based mostly off nostalgia and borrow most of thier ideas from the past games.

But 3D Mario games obviously don't borrow most of their ideas from past games and bank on nostalgia, right? Always these double standards, even after Super Mario 3D Land just came out and desperately tried to be like Super Mario Bros.

This is a good point.

NSMB brought Donkey Kong Country back. That alone is worth more than 3D Mario did in the last decade. It's just unfortunate that a lot of companies thought that NSMB is just a game that banks on nostalgia, so they didn't update their new games appropriately. Super Mario Bros. evolved while games like Mega Man 9 and 10 remained stuck in the past.

Hyperbole and you know it. Either that, or pure opinion. I loved Mario 64, loved Conker, looved donkey kong 64, absolutely loved Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time. Alot of games based on Mario 64. And there are many more.

To say that Super Mario Bros.' evolution is spot on always is a misstatement. Yoshi's Island did not sell well despite pretending to be the evolution of Super Mario World (it was subtitled Super Mario World 2). And Super Mario World, despite being a proper evolution of Super Mario Bros 3, did not sell all that well relatively speaking.

NSMB is just a very well timed release, and a damn good game in certain respects, but in others it isn't that good. Compare it to games like Megaman and you have a clear winner (being Megaman). Compare it to Ninja Gaiden and you know which wins in awesomeness (it's Ninja Gaiden). So how is NSMB such an evolution? I mean it has appeal, but is it really all that awesome? Yes multiplayer is great (NSMBW), but what of that did DKCR integrate?